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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:36 am 
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.I tell myself this over and over stop wanting them to want to fuck me.
No no...you WANT them to want to fuck you...you WANT them to desire you. :geek:

This isn't about doing nothing...this is about being able to know when to do something AND when to do nothing...when to occupy space and when to give it...when to speak and when to listen. :ugeek:

...and if you're still looking at the girl who is dissing 10 guys, waiting to see if she'll give you a sign that she's jocking instead of scanning the room for the chicks that ARE jocking you, you're still doing it wrong. :|

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:57 am 
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...and if you're still looking at the girl who is dissing 10 guys, waiting to see if she'll give you a sign that she's jocking instead of scanning the room for the chicks that ARE jocking you, you're still doing it wrong. :|
Ego at work -- wanting to show that one girl that you don't care, and then hoping that will prove or "win" something..

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:00 am 
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...and if you're still looking at the girl who is dissing 10 guys, waiting to see if she'll give you a sign that she's jocking instead of scanning the room for the chicks that ARE jocking you, you're still doing it wrong. :|
Ego at work -- wanting to show that one girl that you don't care, and then hoping that will prove or "win" something..
Precisely. Ego is a muthafuckah. :geek:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:10 am 
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I love a good wallow in self-pity myself. Only once in a while though.

But seriously, caliboy, you are giving way too much power over your emotions to other people. You need to drop that and be more logical and icy.

You can't 'make' anyone want anything. Outside of your control. You can influence a bit.
I'd have said to the lady 'Hell yeah i'm surprised too. Well, i'm a tough nut to crack. Here's my number for your single girl friends btw. Bye now'
The girl at the club chose her best option. If she wanted to do so. You weren't it. To be it, you gotta only work on yourself. One day you'll be able to seriously think 'her loss!'


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:41 am 
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This is the biggest problem i am having so far being content regardless without women..Yeah i haven't died from not getting laid in 6 months but i haven't exactly been content either..I try to occupy myself like doing things alone such bowling,movie theatre, clubs my desire for women hasn't changed that much. Just being honest here.
It's not like, I don't have the desire. I just think they're over pricing it a little bit, combined with the fact that even if you do act on it it's considered something to be mocked. Has cured me of the desire to make their day. I just let them buy their cats and shit and get ready for the inevitable being alone. The one girl I thought was an X-Factor but just needed some work is already a cat lady :lol: .If the right circumstances arise I would act on it but since they are non-existent I just let the desire manifest as something seperate from action. Just realize the desire will eat you if you let it. Or you can just embrace it and let it be. The degree to which you can do this is gonna be one of the biggest determiners of if you can succeed or not.

If you could just be like, huh guess I'll be pimp tight now...wow this is really easy. Everyone would do it. You must exercise patience

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:54 am 
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.I tell myself this over and over stop wanting them to want to fuck me.
If your a young guy, your greatest victories are gonna come when you reach ninja levels of calibration. :ugeek:

When you can walk into a nightclub, and be like that girl wants me. Where every micro movement means something and your the only one who can see the code. Or your somewhere at some kind of function and after you hear that one of them was asking about you.

You can have your cake now...but you'll eat it later. 8-)

In fact might do a little lightsabering this weekend, getting a little rusty lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:52 pm 
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This is a recent video that may aid you clear some brainz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEO-ADIniag

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:15 pm 
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Great video. And a nice confirmation.

I like all the times I rejected girls even more now :twisted:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:49 pm 
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ahk wrote:
Great video. And a nice confirmation.

I like all the times I rejected girls even more now :twisted:
It's quite restorative. The damage you inflict in their brains is incalculable.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:57 am 
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.I tell myself this over and over stop wanting them to want to fuck me.
No no...you WANT them to want to fuck you...you WANT them to desire you. :geek:

This isn't about doing nothing...this is about being able to know when to do something AND when to do nothing...when to occupy space and when to give it...when to speak and when to listen. :ugeek:

...and if you're still looking at the girl who is dissing 10 guys, waiting to see if she'll give you a sign that she's jocking instead of scanning the room for the chicks that ARE jocking you, you're still doing it wrong. :|

Well i'll give you an example last night there was this girl that was jocking me..She turned down 3 guys who wanted to grind on her before she was jocking me..She was definetely a tease..Now what i am wondering is how do you tell the difference from a jock where they want to set you up for rejection vs an actual jock..I knew that if i tried to dance with her she would reject me..In fact when she came and sat on the chair i was resting my leg on i knew she wanted to get my attention(she did this twice) but it also felt like it was a setup to be manipulated by a seductress..I didn't take the bait..I knew she was playing games.Thats why i never approached her because although it looked like a jock it also looked like a setup..I havent really seen any genuine jocks.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:27 am 
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Genuine, is when they blindside you. Half the time you won't even see them on your radar.

The game is too conscious with that girl, sharpen your wits on her and move on.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:13 am 
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I was stone cold,icy and completely unreactive in her presence when other guys were drooling.I think she was curious about that and wanted to find out if i would bite and i didn't.She danced in front of me and i didn't even look at her.She sat in the seat directly across and the same thing.The thing is altough it may have came across as a jock it also seem like an attempt to lure my attention towards her.There is that difference and it seems like the ones who are jockin are like that that is attention starved divas.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:05 am 
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Well i'll give you an example last night there was this girl that was jocking me..She turned down 3 guys who wanted to grind on her before she was jocking me..She was definetely a tease..Now what i am wondering is how do you tell the difference from a jock where they want to set you up for rejection vs an actual jock..I knew that if i tried to dance with her she would reject me..In fact when she came and sat on the chair i was resting my leg on i knew she wanted to get my attention(she did this twice) but it also felt like it was a setup to be manipulated by a seductress..I didn't take the bait..I knew she was playing games.Thats why i never approached her because although it looked like a jock it also looked like a setup..I havent really seen any genuine jocks.
Dude, read what you just wrote. You're getting it. Do you know how many guys *would* have taken the bait. Trust your gut.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:22 am 
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Which is why i would say that 90% of jocks(in my experience) are not because there interested rather they want you to look at them and make a move so they can reject you..Finding a woman who is truely jocking you out of interest is like finding a needle in a haystack.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:29 am 
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caliboy85 wrote:
Which is why i would say that 90% of jocks(in my experience) are not because there interested rather they want you to look at them and make a move so they can reject you..Finding a woman who is truely jocking you out of interest is like finding a needle in a haystack.
No it's not...you're not doing it right. :geek:

You said she turned down 3 guys BEFORE she started jockin you...am I the ONLY one who can see the problem with this picture? :|

Have you stopped to think that maybe...JUST MAYBE...you wanted this chick to jock you sooooo bad that you started projecting hard enough to see what you wanted to see? And that only your gut could (and did!) save you from your self induced delusion? :roll:

STOP LOOKING AT WHAT YOU LIKE!...START LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT LIKES YOU! :evil:

You're gonna keep on bitching and moaning...the fellas will keep on trying to help you see...but at the end of the day, this post right here is both ALL the answer and the explanation you NEED. :ugeek:

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^^^Listen to this and read and re-read until you get it.

Your whole post focuses on this one woman who was jocking, err baiting, err feeding her ego. What about the other 40 or whatever women that were in the joint. Did you even observe them or did you have tunnel vision on this one chic who was obviously desired by a lot of men?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:02 pm 
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The Kidd!! wrote:
It's not about not desiring women...it's about understanding the behind the scenes dynamics to give you the upper hand when dealing with women. ;)
Just saw this, another quote worthy of saving in your personal knowledge library.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:57 pm 
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The Kidd!! wrote:

STOP LOOKING AT WHAT YOU LIKE!...START LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT LIKES YOU! :evil:
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^^^Listen to this and read and re-read until you get it.

Your whole post focuses on this one woman who was jocking, err baiting, err feeding her ego. What about the other 40 or whatever women that were in the joint. Did you even observe them or did you have tunnel vision on this one chic who was obviously desired by a lot of men?
This shit fucking kills me. I hate, hate, hate, it. I want to whine and complain "What if you don't like what likes you?" I had some ugly girls or girls I didn't find attractive like me past.

Fuck it. I guess the answer is if you don't like your choosers, work on yourself until you find one that you like and if it never happens, be alone.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:39 pm 
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to Flux:

hi mate, stop acting like a trick. you look up and see the sky, some people look up and they see whole universe.

you can give nothing and expect everything... dig that 8-)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:59 pm 
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This isn't about doing nothing...this is about being able to know when to do something AND when to do nothing...when to occupy space and when to give it...when to speak and when to listen. :ugeek:
@ The Kidd!!:

I agree with everything you said, but I also think the point needs to be made that doing nothing is actually doing something too. This is a fundamental point I have been debating in my mind, but I cannot come up with a persuasive argument against this framework. Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm about to give some evidence I think I see.

In caliboy's example, his gut helped him do nothing. I don't think there is enough to say that he is projecting, but it is definitely important that his gut told him not to act on what he THOUGHT he saw.

I think that precedes whatever projection there may have been. The mind cannot supersede what the gut orders when the gut is listened to. It even comes across in what he's writing.


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