Natural Freedom

I have a quick question for you guys about this subject. Would i be in the wrong if i bring up sex at this point? I wasn't thinking about this untill today. I would be pissed if i wasted my time and money on prom and ended up empty handed you know. I know she is not obligated to do it but prom is for the girls really, im looking foward to the party afterwards haha.

Now i gotta prom date without even putting in work, if this isn't pimpin tight then don't know what is.

I was like nah Shit make her ass jump through some hoops first. Then i responded i really don't wanna go i have to buy a suit and all that" she was like "just rent one everybody else do that." Then i thought she actually had the ovaries to ask me So i said "Aight i'll take you to prom." My friends were like this " " then she screamed "OH MY GOD IM GOING TO PROM WITH A BIG BLACK MAN!" (smh high school bitches ) then she kept on asking me "are you serious?" I was like i wouldn't say yes if i didn't mean it.
Now i gotta prom date without even putting in work, if this isn't pimpin tight then don't know what is.

Peace.

Jeez

[slaps Donni round the head with a hot pepper]

You are not pimp tight.

You did not put her through any hoops. She put you through a hoop and test you and you failed.

She kicked some bullshit ass rent a suit shit. Dude you should have told her to rent one for you and take you

out for the fitting, yet you agreed to that mentality. She basically was like get your shit together and you said

yes ma'am. Yessa master.

Last, you are most likely nothing but an object to her.

Let us know if she leaves you standing on the wall or something at prom and then ask us why that happened.
Sounds like you also haven't stuck to the plan.

Sticking to the plan on most occasions is part of being pimp tight.

You have a plan for your enjoyment, and you put that plan secondary to your wants while prioritizing some

random females wants that you don't understand, whom has not done anything for you.

If I'm wrong then I'm glad to be wrong, but if I'm wrong it means that you didn't explain the situation well enough.

Jeez

[slaps Donni round the head with a hot pepper]

ouch wtf

I would be pissed if i wasted my time and money on prom and ended up empty handed you know.

You know, this is why women run circles around most men; most guys (even "players") are so totally blinded by the opportunity to lay a "hot chick" that they do not treat even ONE of their experiences as a learning opportunity. Therefore, whether symp or player, whether they get laid once or 100's of times, THEY NEVER LEARN ANYTHING.

ouch wtf

Why not just treat this whole thing, from here on out, as a lesson in observation and a learning experience? And in addition to observing, ANALYSE everything that you observe....

In the same way, it would be interesting for you to reread and ANALYSE your clarification post - the one where you refer to her as Betsy. I myself have learned a lot about her, you, and your friends, just from this one post. You should too .

her: duhhhh i know u jokin

Jeez

[slaps Donni round the head with a hot pepper]

No don't bring up sex, what has she done to deserve sex? Let her try and get it out of you. Why are you spending money? She asked you!

I have analyzed that Betsy is using me to go to prom i'm not shocked by it and i'm just going along with it because i don't have anything else better to do.

Ohh yeah here is the text conversation we just had awhile ago.

me: hahaha ask other girls to prom and imma walk in with like 6 different bitches.

[Your goal isn't just observation man. You explicitly stated that this Betsy is like your bottom bitch, but you aren't even talking to her like she's your bottom bitch. Do you know what a bottom bitch is and how she acts? This is what you said to her, "please get more women for me because I don't think that you are enough even though I have openly committed to you being the star of the night in my life." This is fine if you're really talking to her like she's your bottom bitch. It's also conflicting with the way that you act in general. So, I would say in most cases you're better off not stating shit like this until you have grown some more. The reasoning to joke with a bitch about this is if you're not in the type of social situation that you are. Prom is a big event in her mind. It is a formal event in both of your minds. This is not the time or place to misplace jokes about other women. If you are dead serious about getting multiple women to role with you then talking to Betsy is the worst thing you could have done. You should have talked to the bitch that was spoon feeding you ice cream like a mother to a baby and told her to come along and bring her friends. Then you don't have to mention your thirsty ass friends.]

her: HAHAHAH JUST ME

[Here she is not joking. She is telling you loudly that she is the only girl that you need or should want. She is RE-FUCKING STATING THE FUCKING CONTRACT THAT YOU AGREED TO WHEN YOU SAID YES TO GOING TO PROM WITH HER AND NOTHING ELSE.]

me: nah i'll contribute

[What does this even mean? You don't have anything to bring to the table. She told you what to bring to the table. Your ass and a suit. This is trick mentality right here. I've never said I'll contribute shit to bitch when the contract has been defined. YOU'RE TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH.]

her: MEE

[The shortness of her response is indicating that she growing tired of your fuck ups. Once again, SHE IS RESTATING THE CONTRACT. THE ONLY OBLIGATION YOU HAVE IS TO HER. IF YOU DIDN'T WANT THE OBLIGATION TO HER THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID NO, OR YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING STAG AND YOU'LL SEE HER AT PROM.]

me: ohh i thought you were serious hahah

[IF YOU'RE PLAYING DUMB THEN SAVE IT FOR WHEN YOU SET THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT. This also does not fit with the way that you should start and finish. Also, why do you have so many damn text messages in a row? Seriously, give her some space. All you have to do is get your suit and go to prom. If she asks you to pick her up then you tell her to get there by herself because that's not what you agreed on. You don't even have to mention your thirsty ass friends. Also, I didn't mention the color thing because it's less important, but you should just let her pick the color so that you have to do less work. This is her asking you to prom, not vice versa.

her: Nooo just me. No bitches ME


her: HAHAHA JUST ME

[She is making her evidence plain and clear that she is to be the focus of the night. Any response after hers is superfluous conversation. You got your Push/Pull in at this point. You're overdoing it with anything more. Also, openly using words like ho and bitch is a NO NO if you don't already use those words with her. If you are uncomfortable calling Betsy a bitch or ho to her face then you should not use those impolite words when talking about other females. WHY? Because when a woman thinks that you are genuine. She thinks that no other woman gets special treatment from you expect maybe your mom and even that is a stretch to think with some females.

me: HA! these bitches be lovin me though

[WOW! You love your damn ego. If you honestly think that these women love you then your patently wrong. Women at this stage in their life just want someone to control. However, that belief aside, you are royally fucking up because you're placing other women on a damn pedestal by saying that. It should be shown, not told. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE PHRASE THE GAME IS SOLD NOT TOLD? That saying does not mean that learning good game costs money. No the only game is good game. So, game shouldn't cost money. WOMEN ARE GAME. WOMEN ARE SOLD ONE THING AND TOLD ANOTHER. SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU SHOULD SHOW HER THAT WOMEN LOVE YOU AND TELL HER SOMETHING UNIQUE AND SPECIFIC TO HER SO SHE CAN HOLD CLAIM TO YOUR BELIEFS. Have you ever heard the saying? WORD IS BOND? IF YOU SPOUT SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH THEN YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO BACK IT UP. Honestly, if you roll less than 2 deep of other females her respect is going to go down the drain even more for you. Women don't have a great sense of humor, but they're like tape recorders that don't often miss what you say and do. You are propping up a house of cards that will come crumbling down. Have you ever heard the phrase that YOU ARE BAKING YOURSELF SOME HUMBLE PIE? Let me know how it tastes later.

me: you know im just joking right haha

[Here you send two text messages in a row. That's bad business for text game. She already sent you two text messages in a row. You were supposed to be done for the day. Everything that actually needed to be said was said way earlier in the conversation. She already got her instructions. NOW, YOU ARE SHOWING HER HOW FLIMSY YOUR HOUSE OF CARDS ARE. You are telling her that what you are telling her is what you are selling her. If you need clarification reread the above paragraph. Why is it so bad that what you are telling her is what you are selling her? What you are telling her is some crappy ass shit.

I suspect you waited for a long time before you sent and second text message, and when you sent the second text message she took her good ol' time responding back to you.]

her: duhhhh i know u jokin

[Here she is restating the contract again, and she is telling you something different. She is saying that you have to be joking because you put other women on a pedestal, and she is the only one who bothered to chase your pedestal placing ass. The reason why she is so disrespectful is not just that you lost control of the conversation/Frame as Star_Above puts it so eloquently. She is also disrespectful because of your previous actions. You denigrated other women; you played dumb; you said that you'd trick; you said that she isn't enough; you said that you can have more than her; and, NOW YOU ARE FUCKING JOKING? Give me a Kit-Kat because I'm pumping the brakes on this shit you're saying so hard that I need extra breaks. Last, she is telling you that SHE UNDER NO UNCERTAIN TERMS DOES NOT TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. The normal respectful response is: I wasn't sure, I didn't know, I couldn't tell because of the way you are, I was hoping you were, I'm glad you are, I wasn't expecting that, but I'm gald. Hell, I even put the responses in sequential order from worst to best respectful responses. THAT SHIT SHE SAID IS SO FAR LEFT FIELD THAT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF SHE JUST TOOK A PICTURE WITH YOU AT PROM AND KEPT IT ROLLING.

me: haha

[She blatantly disrespected you and you want to laugh it off? You don't have control of the conversation buddy. Your best bet was to cop back on her real quick with something like, "I'll see you on the dance floor if I don't have another partner because I don't appreciate being talked to in that manner." Your second best bet was to shut up and see what develops. Your third best option was to immediately call up all the other hoes that you think are your fans and make plans with them to go to prom. Why? You don't want your house of cards falling down now do you? If one of them agreed then all you have to do is have one of them call up Betsy and serve her that bad news that she isn't going to prom with you because one your "genuine" female friends wanted to go with you. The reason why you have the other female call up is because you're playing it like that other female chose you. If she calls up questioning why you didn't say it to her face then you check her for her disrespect and let her know that she has to give respect to get it. Those are your top three options from easiest least time consuming to most difficult and time consuming.]


i don't why but when she text me "duhh i know u jokin" i think she thinks that i can't take no other bitches to prom. im not saying i can't because i can but is that some disrepectful shit?

You seem to put your ego down somewhat when you aren't talking to women. Your ego should come out of practical necessity to deal with situations. Your ego should flow with the tone you take. Your ego should be trained to be used to develop the easiest responses to the bullshit women put you through. To train your ego you have to let go of vanity. Vanity is excessive pride, and you seem to show excessive pride with not only women, but your homeboys too. I don't think that you are being true to yourself and that is reason why you have this weird question after all the evidence was in front of you. I'm not saying that you can't be like, "My talk is so smooth and my spit is so slick that I'll have a bitch springing to fall for me through different reasons for seasons on seasons." You just have to be in firm control of yourself and have your feet planted on the ground. Your head can't be in the clouds. IN THIS WORLD, THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE IS GOOD DICK AND CONVERSATION, AND IF THE CONVERSATION AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH THEN THAT PERSON NEEDS TO FIND SOME OTHER DICK BECAUSE IT'S A PACKAGE DEAL. you can adapt what I just said for your personal use in talking to women. Now, you don't have to bring up sex because you can engineer that shit in some conversation. I know that was something you were asking about earlier. Here, you're confident. You're grounded. You let women know some of your terms. You're witty and clear.


EDIT: I remember when the board used to be a lot harsher. I remember some of the stupid things I did. I remember that we were nit picky for a reason and we broke everything down. Maybe I just haven't been reading the newer posts enough.

Anyway, as a compliment to you Donni G, you're light years ahead of where I was in high school. I was a very late bloomer, and unlike a lot of your senior board members I'm still blossoming now. I still haven't fully flowered and matured into what I want to be. So, a good word of advice that helped me out a lot, "Stay down so you can come up." If you've read all the material on the sight then read it again. Keep working until when you look up everything seems so different. I actually plan to.

I also suggest that you read 21st Century Fox: Space Age Pimping. You don't need to be like Paradise or The Kidd!! The Kidd!! is all up in that book, but you'll get a lot out of the concepts. Most of my verbal game and psychological game has come from the streets. It hasn't come off of these forums. It's come from me staying down being up in the face of every female that I thought was jockin' me until I could tell choosin' from jockin' in a heartbeat. Hell, I even still kick some fucked up lines to jockin' ass hos every now and then. By fucked up, I mean lines that fuck with their head.

You lost the strength of your frame right here. You's both knew you were play'n, stating it showed some weakness (Hence her disrespectful reply - even though it looks like she was joking with it, I know some respect was lost on her part) and gave away some power, nothing that can't be gained back though.

Also, don't try and brag about other bitches wanting you and shit, it's try-hard, when you got it on lockdown you don't need to brag about it because she'll see it in person.