Natural Freedom

Last night, me and a few friends took some hawaiian psychadelics. They're supposed to get you in a thinking state, and since I've started reading posts from this site, I wanted to examine myself and find out why I never acted in this way. What I realized, after taking them and watching the Matrix (the trip lasted for longer, but watching the movie really got me thinking about a few things):

1) The first thing we have to identify is what we can and cannot control. After that, we can simply let go, and therein accept, whatever we cannot control while focusing on the one thing we do have power over, which is ourselves.

2) Anybody that is trying to control the things that are out of his control (especially people's opinion's of him) is simply compensating for a lack of control over himself. I'd say it felt like this emptiness, or a void, that I've had my whole life, which I had no idea how to fill. Now I know that it's not that I couldn't fill it, but I was looking at the wrong source when trying to. My focus was in the wrong places.

That's why I believe that PUA and everything else that is external-outcome oriented is pure bullshit. Why would you want to spend your time trying to make a girl like you? What does that bring you? Even if all goes well and you neg/tease/push-pull to perfection, the outcome will be a quick burst of self-acceptance and self-love (yeeah, she likes me, which means I'm great), which will slowly fade if the external validations aren't there. Whereas simply loving yourself, knowing you do have the power to change anything that can be changed, is constant self-love. You don't really need anybody's approval and finally become independent. Free to do whatever you please. It sounds like this crazy complicated thing, but it's so simple.

So a way to tie it into the Matrix would be this, I think: Neo could do all these crazy things like stopping bullets and flying because he realized and accepted the rules of the Matrix ("Don't think you're faster. Know you are"). Once you know the rules of the game though, you realize when and where they can be bent and see through superficial nonsense that's been programmed into us.

If this is all incoherent nonsense, I hope anybody who has more insight into this will correct me. I'm still kind of dazed and tired, as we didn't get much sleep last night. We're probably going to finish watching the Matrix this weekend. I can't wait to see the final part, where the machines and Neo work together to stop Smith. It's a cool metaphor for the "I stopped fighting my demons. We're on the same side now" quote.

Peace.

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Take it easy, man. But take it.

Excellent!

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Bravo!!!!

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Fair enough.


Pick up artistry was invented for a reason. That very reason was for guys to have a tangible, cerebral understanding that attracting women was not outside the control of any man in general. This mentality alone is a huge step in allowing guys to release resistance when dealing with women. You could argue that any of the advice given doesn't matter at all; just the shift in mentality is a step forward to greater understanding of men's freedom and power.

Pick up artistry allows a man to go from despair to hope, realising that maybe he has control after all.


The very thing you mention here...
Next point.

There is nothing wrong with this paragraph except that people are unable to function to this level of understanding from one side of the spectrum to the other.

The guy who is trying to pick up the girl or learn pick up is not aware that he is seeking his own independence, he is only aware of the observation of his own life: "I do not have a girlfriend, I want a girlfriend". That is all. If you talk to this guy about his own independence, not only will he not listen to you, he will happily give it up for a girl, a one night stand, a marriage - anything because he is desperate. He does not wish for anything other than the ability to find a woman. It is this bliss that he is following. The benefit here is that when he gets what he wants, then he he has a better chance of understanding that this was not what he was looking for and what he was actually looking for lay somewhere else.

However, if he had not gotten to his primary destination, he would not have known that a further destination existed.


The pick up artistry anchor helped him on his way to getting there. It is true that some people get stuck on pick up artistry. They will still get there, they're just going to take a little longer.

The rest of your post is fine.

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Sparkling All Over

Dude when are we hanging out lol?

Thanks for the replies guys. The overall "I'm the shit and can do whatever the fuck I want" feeling has faded a bit after the psychedelic wore off, but my mindset now and what it was is completely different.

I don't agree with some of the things you said though, Scarf. The fact that you have hope in getting women is fine and all, but it's coming from a completely different mindset than the one people here have. Instead of going through and learning some dumbfoundingly complicated things to get to "Stage 2 - Interest" of attraction, he can simply start working on making himself happy. I was focused on making other people happy instead of doing shit that made me love myself - getting enough money to support my lifestyle, working out more than once a week, studying to get to a good university.

I'm sure that there were good intentions in the beginning of PuA, but most of it is just wrong advice. My teacher surely means well when she says that the best way to learn a language is to learn all the grammar first and then go and speak. But that doesn't change the fact that that piece of advice is bullshit and it'll only handicap you when you actually get to communicating in a foreign language.

I think TML said it best when he said that when you're with women, you should simply enjoy and appreciate what they bring to the table, not want anything from them (i.e "Please somehow let me know that I'm cool and that you dig me. No, don't talk to that dude over there. Talk to me!!")

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Don't worry...this is common around here.

You're alright with me tho, Scarf!...we can agree to disagree sometimes.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

Technically true. Practically impossible.


As evidenced by the very fact that you are on here and started this thread in the first place. You mean to tell me that you knew this truth from the day you were born? You came into the community knowing this truth? You just happen to be here, do you? No prior learning took place before you stumbled upon your grand discovery?


You can teach this truth to every guy you can find and no guy will be able to listen to you or take your message in unless they are in the proximity of being able to interpret what it is that you are expressing. Have a look at some of the people on this forum. Why has it taken so long for some members here to get it? Why are other members in need of further contemplation?

Better yet, why don't you go off to Zan's forum or David DeAngelo's forum or Style's forum and reveal to them this grand truth that you have discovered. Tell them! Tell them what they need to hear! Tell them of your great revelation.

Do you honestly think for one second they will be able to even contemplate, understand or be in the proximity of what it is you're expressing?

Honestly?

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Sparkling All Over

Yeah, I see your point. We've come a long way to get to where we are. Shit, I don't think I'm even at a halfway point compared to where some of you are. Can't really expect people to grasp this right away.

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I agree with Scarf on this one because:

A. Almost everyone in here have already been to the PUA community before showing up here. That means that we already went through stage 1- got disappointed and started searching for something else...

B. Even though our forum is free and we don't push products or boot camps in here: we don't have so many members like other PUA forums.

C. When I went to other PUA forums and invited people here: very little showed up. That means that most people still preferred to stay on the PUA forums instead of coming here.

There are few people (like The Kidd) who can maybe skip stage 1 (the community) and go directly to stage 2- but most people are not like that.
I'll put my ego aside and admit that if I haven't went through the community phase I don't think I would have been able to fully grasp the things Kidd talks about AND now- have a girlfriend on my terms...

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

That's fair...and Scarf knows that he and I don't see eye to eye on some things because of my overall ignorance regarding 'the community'...we harbor no animosity for each other tho...I feel that he understands that some things I just won't 'get'...so I get a pass from his usually insightful rants.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

Indeed.

But also, we are all different people; we are supposed to have a slightly different perspective; it makes life interesting. If two people agree completely on one subject, then one of them is lying.

PS Moose, the fact that you were able to put your ego aside in the way that you did goes to show that you will go very far very fast.

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Sparkling All Over

Yeah, if I didn't go thru PUA, Energy Hooey, NG Hooey, spending time, money, and effort on B.S. that only made me more frustrated etc. I would have never been able to comprehend & slowly (it takes time for me, b/c my whole foundational beliefs about dating, men/woman dynamics was completely destroyed, like Esther Villar, The Kidd!!, and 'Grinus each dropped a nuclear bomb on me) accept the harsh truth & realities contained in the forum and recommended books.

PU cracked the door open a bit, had I never found that, I would have never found this place either.
Yeah, unfortunately, I don't always take people's word for things. I had to fall on my butt a lot of times before I learned my lesson!

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