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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:52 pm 
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https://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-s ... 25)00034-8
Where is my mind? A neurocognitive investigation of mind blanking
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Ongoing experience comes in shades with varying richness of mental content. Mind blanking (MB) implies that there can be moments that are seemingly devoid of mental content.
MB is gaining attention as a reportable mental state. The multiple definitions it has received point to its current conceptual and methodological ambiguities.
MB may be phenomenologically diverse – different types can bear similarities and differences to 'empty minds', such as during meditative practices and sleep (white dreams).
MB reports have distinguishable neurobehavioral profiles, pointing to arousal as a key foundational backbone for MB reportability.
We propose a mechanistic account in which MB is the end-result of physiological, neural, and cognitive changes, which provides insights for future empirical and phenomenological research of MB.

Made me think of this sketch wisdom from Mark Gungor though unrelated : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjUFYxSxDk - A Tale of Two Brains - In this entertaining film, marriage expert Mark Gungor explores the differences between men and women.

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The concept of the "Nothing Box" ... Beautiful and simple...

Seen on so many sites nowadays, for example : https://greendoorrelaxation.net/2018/04 ... thing-box/

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Interesting

Also, The Zeigarnik Effect

The Zeigarnik Effect is a psychological phenomenon that suggests people remember unfinished or interrupted tasks better than completed ones. It’s named after Bluma Zeigarnik, a Soviet psychologist who, in the 1920s, noticed that waiters seemed to recall unpaid orders more accurately than those already settled.

The essence of the effect lies in the mental tension created by an incomplete task—it nags at your mind, keeping it active in your memory, whereas completed tasks tend to fade more easily into the background.

This concept has powerful implications, especially in fields like education, productivity, advertising, and even storytelling. Ever notice how cliffhangers keep you coming back for more? That’s the Zeigarnik Effect at play.

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Rings bells with background processing as well for me, pushing incomplete tasks into the background, letting the brain work on them.

How they do stick and keep popping up until resolved in some way, which can be very useful imho.

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peregrinus wrote: *
Rings bells with background processing as well for me, pushing incomplete tasks into the background, letting the brain work on them.

How they do stick and keep popping up until resolved in some way, which can be very useful imho.
I can attest to this.
Let the words/topic/thought "marinate" is the concept behind it.
I remember solving -not advanced but fairly complex network problems-, while in P4nd3m1C in home office when I had work.
I was trying so solve a technical problem so hard consciously that the things I tried didn't worked and got frustrated, then after some 45 minutes of nonstop trying things, I just dropped it (not out of despair, but off of tiredness) and then I lay in bed just remained calm with eyes closed, like when your release something you had a tight grip on... A sort of "pseudo sleep" (not even a nap) just closing my eyes completely forgetting about the problem and then it came with the solution: almost automatically and instantly, but the conscious effort I was exerting previously was FULL, my brain just needed SPACE to solve this problem. Happened to me twice.

I remembered I read that in The book named: How to think like Leonardo da Vinci, had a similar tip like this and it was the moment to put it to test, and it worked.

Definitely worth the try.

Tips for Solving Complex Problems Leonardo Style (Deep seek feedback)
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In How to Think Like Leonardo da Vinci, Michael Gelb adapts Leonardo's genius into 7 key principles (Curiosità, Dimostrazione, Sensazione, Sfumato, Arte/Scienza, Corporalità, Connessione). While the entire book teaches how to develop these da Vincian thinking habits, the most direct framework for complex problem solving is presented as the "Solution Finding" process, primarily outlined in Chapter 11 ("Arte/Scienza: Developing the Balance of Science and Art").

Here are the complete steps/tips Gelb provides for solving complex problems, synthesized from the "Solution Finding" section:

Define the Question (Curiosità Driven):

Ask: "What is the real question I'm trying to answer?" "What is the core problem?"

Reframe: Look at the problem from multiple angles. Challenge initial assumptions.

Use Questions: Employ Gelb's "Power Questions" (e.g., "What's missing?", "What if...?", "How else can I look at this?").

Gather Information (Dimostrazione & Sensazione):

Research: Collect relevant facts, data, and knowledge from diverse sources (books, experts, history).

Direct Observation: Use your senses! Look closely, listen intently, touch, taste (if appropriate), smell. Leonardo learned by intensely observing nature and life.

Experience: Test things out practically where possible. Learn from hands-on experimentation.

Deepen Sensory Awareness (Sensazione):

Engage All Senses: Consciously involve sight, sound, touch, smell, and taste to gather richer, more nuanced information about the problem and potential solutions.

Visualize: Create vivid mental images of the problem and potential solutions.

Allow for Mess & Uncertainty (Sfumato):

Tolerate Ambiguity: Don't rush to premature closure. Accept that the path isn't clear yet.

Brainstorm Wildly: Generate a large quantity of ideas without judgment. Encourage absurd, unconventional possibilities. Use mind maps.

Welcome Contradictions: Explore opposing ideas simultaneously. See what insights emerge from the tension.

Incubate (Sfumato & Corporalità):

Step Away: Consciously put the problem aside. Let your subconscious mind work on it.

Engage Body & Rest: Do something physical (walk, exercise), creative (draw, play music), or relaxing (take a bath, nap). This is crucial for insight.

Trust the Process: Understand that breakthroughs often come when you're not actively forcing the solution.


Integrate & Synthesize (Connessione & Arte/Scienza):

Look for Patterns & Connections: How do the ideas, information, and potential solutions relate? Look for analogies in nature, art, science, history.

Combine Opposites (Connessione): Can seemingly contradictory ideas be merged into a novel solution?

Balance Logic & Imagination (Arte/Scienza): Use both analytical thinking (science) and creative, holistic, pattern-based thinking (art). Draw diagrams, make models, sketch ideas.

The "Aha!" Moment: This is where the insight or breakthrough solution often surfaces, often after incubation.

Refine & Define (Dimostrazione):

Test & Evaluate: Subject your insights and solutions to rigorous testing. Ask: "Does this really solve the core problem?" "What are the potential flaws?"

Seek Feedback: Share your ideas with others and get constructive criticism.

Iterate: Be prepared to go back to earlier steps based on feedback and testing. Refine your solution.

Define the Solution Clearly: Articulate the final solution precisely.

Key Da Vincian Principles Embedded in this Process:

Cyclical, Not Linear: Gelb emphasizes this is rarely a straight path. You may loop back between steps (e.g., gathering more info after testing, incubating again after integrating).

Wholeness: True solutions often emerge when engaging the whole mind (logic + intuition), body (senses, movement), and spirit (curiosity, wonder).

Embrace Paradox: Sfumato (tolerance for ambiguity) is essential for navigating the messiness of complex problems.

Interconnectedness (Connessione): Solutions often lie at the intersection of different disciplines or perspectives.

Crucial Takeaway from Gelb: Solving complex problems like Leonardo isn't just about a checklist; it's about cultivating the underlying mental habits (the 7 principles) that make this process natural and effective. The "Solution Finding" steps provide the structure, but your developed Curiosità, Dimostrazione, Sensazione, etc., fuel the process.

This framework encourages moving beyond purely analytical approaches, embracing creativity, ambiguity, sensory input, and the power of the subconscious to unlock innovative solutions to truly complex challenges.

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Interesting summary, tempting Dali.

Sfumato :)

A post in books with your review and/or that summary :)

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peregrinus wrote: *
Interesting summary, tempting Dali.

Sfumato :)

A post in books with your review and/or that summary :)
Hi Grinus, this time DeepSeek the AI (LLM) was the winner with the succinct overall covering of the main topics in this book.
Still, I thoroughly recommend this book because it goes into more detail about what you guys read.

Maybe I'll open a new board with a topic on book reviews.
I still do this a lot (tons of notes) not the most efficient way, but simply the things I like to see summarized and the thing that makes more sense for me, does not matter the topic of the book.

@Sfumato:
Chaos: Making a New Science.

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Da Vinci!

And all my personal polymath zibaldoni, written in a higgledy-piggledy manner... :oops:

What's Inside Leonardo Da Vinci's Notebooks? 14min23sec
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Adam shares with us another piece from his collection of "impossible objects"--replicas of artifacts that we would never be able to touch and examine in person. He has just received perfect recreations of Leonardo da Vinci's Codex Forester III: the artist's notes, diagrams, and sketches pertaining to locking devices, architecture, and human and animal anatomy. These creations by paper artist Stefano Tartaglione are some of the most compelling replicas in Adam's collection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ams_O66gyg

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Jared wrote: *
And all my personal polymath zibaldoni, written in a higgledy-piggledy manner... :oops:
:)
Dali wrote: *
I still do this a lot (tons of notes) not the most efficient way, but simply the things I like to see summarized and the thing that makes more sense for me, does not matter the topic of the book.
bravo

having information in a format that suits you has soo many benefits imho
Jared wrote: *
What's Inside Leonardo Da Vinci's Notebooks? 14min23sec
That was a beautiful short video... that small book, oh my :)
His drawings are stunning imho and seeing them in the original format surprised me.
Dali wrote: *
Still, I thoroughly recommend this book because it goes into more detail about what you guys read.
Looking at the summary, it looks recommendable, an interesting list of topics, many touched on here.
Added to reading list.

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