Warning!! natural grounding can actually screw your success with women, If you are doing it like Rion suggested.
I thought a lot if I should post this or not cause for some it will be hard to accept.
heck even I had a hard time accepting this myslef. however bare with me and of course feel free to think I'm wrong
First I'll point this out: If you are doing natural grounding like Me and 'way of a natural' (from the forum) are doing it: just as a reminder- to remind ourselves what traits to look for in women and As a reminder of what a woman's true nature is (after years of bad conditioning by popular media)- That is Ok, not harmful and even good. We are also not doing it for hours and hours, I'm doing it once in a while when I feel like it for 10-15 minutes tops.
Now why would it screw your sucess to do it like Rion suggested, I'll explain.
First a little foreword,
peregrinus had a great post in here of why the tagging of women just accroding to natural social or inner might be a bad idea. A woman for example can be 80% natural but also have 40% inner traits because she uses them in her work place. Example: I had a teacher at my
university which is a lawyer so when she is in court she is tough (like an inner alpha) however when I talked to her in private after class and asked her some questions about the exam she was very feminine. I actually told her that I can't beleive she is a lawyer because I thought all women lawyers were tough and not feminine, she laughed and told me that when she is in court she is, but when she is with her husband she is very feminine (Not all women know to separate between work and home But some do....).
Another example:Violet Marcell, Johnny Soporno's porn star girl friend is also 80% social because of the buisness she is in, but I would say she has 80% natural character too, which she shows often in pictures (most porn stars don't show their natural side in public pictures).
Now peregrinus also noted that some women in the west are natural but will not show it in public places cause they don't feel 'safe' to show it in public (our western society says it's not Ok to be feminine casue it's weak...) But when you are alone with them they will show it.
So you might not see it when you talk to her in a public place but when you are alone with her you will see she is not who she is when you first met her and made first interaction..
Ok now let's get to the bottom of why it might screw your success if you do it like Rion said:
Rion said that you need to submit\surrender to female energy while grounding. Here is a question I asked Rion on the realm forum-
Me: 'Rion, you mentioned something about surrendering to female energy while grounding. But if I do that wouldn't it mean to hand over my power? lose my relational independence'?
Rion: 'SURRENDERING to their natural power is what gets you back in natural alignment so yes, let your ego go knowing it's ok to absolutely SUBMIT to a natural alpha woman'.
Now this may sound good and true, however it is Not!!
'The Kidd' mentioned that by doing this you are conditioning yourself to be the response and not the stimulus, the way it is meant to be by nature. Thus, when you see a natural woman and get in relation with her She will have the power and not you.
I can look back on from my own personal experience when I met a few women who had natural character and I was able to bring it out from them due to my awareness. Most men in my country don't have a clue about natural character and what it is, so you might think these women should be all over me because I know the secret.
Wrong, I did bring out their natural character but they were not attracted because they were the stimulus and I was the response to them.
Now if you are grounded in your reality very strong (like The Kidd, Corry Sky or David X)
a woman will open up her natural character to you
And you will be the stimulus and have the power. I think peregrinus and Jari the shaman also know it and that's why it happens to them as well. peregrinus does not even do natural grounding.......
Another point: when you do too many hours of natural grounding you are reprograming your subconscious (without even knowing it) that only Asian women are what you should look for.
what you focus on is what you will see in your reality, thus- you might always think that western women will never be feminine like Thai women and if you will come accrose a natural western woman, you won't even see it anymore.
So if I could give you a final conclusion, it's like The Kidd said and I agree:
natural grounding, if done like Rion teaches- is not the ticket out of the social matrix in the west. It's just another system of control that will not empower you but make you powerless.
It is a social matrix program like the other programs- only a different kind.
(note- if you do Rion's 'Top grounding' which is to wack off to Asian females music videos, that is going to screw your success even more, Big time)
Oh and there is this myth on Realm that natural grounding will help you reach non ego states or even enlightenment. All those 'non ego' states Rion 'thinks' he had with NG are very much ego states. If he had more knowledge in eastern philosophy he would know that non ego states can't happen from watching some Thai music videos.
And as far as enlightenment, Palmy is not a Zen master that will pop out of my computer screen and make me reach enlightenment
As far as healing, if some people find it a healing experience- great. Personaly I think there are much more effective methods like Sedona, EFT, etc.....
I mean Palmy is a very cute singer from Thailand and a great woman. But is she a healer?
is it really going to 'heal' anything if I look at her music videos?
guess you already know what I think about this subject.