Question to you: What do you mean by testing it unconsciously?
Actually, I said testing it CONSCIOUSLY - this always seems to dissolve the effect TOTALLY, as you seem to also have realised:
I had similar experiences like you, but whenever i tried to replicate it I failed.
Moving on:
she had guys that were much richer that I was, better looking etc,
First one only matters to her SOCIAL values, not her deeper, SEXUAL ones. Second one is a common misconception that this post should help to correct:
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... &view=next. The first post in this thread confirmed something I always suspected. Even if the original email is a hoax, it matches up PERFECTLY with what i've observed. One of my favourite posts on this forum. I once summed it up like this:
I would even go as far as to say that when a woman refers to a man as good-looking, this really means "Even though his face is ugly as fuck, and he's a pudgy little shrimp, that dude really inhabits his body with ease, and his piercing glare can casually part my left & right labia MILES AWAY from one another without even trying."
Anyway, continuing onwards:
Second time was not quite long ago when I had to move form other city, and completely start my life from the scrath again. I remember standing on the bus stop and plenty of girls jocking me etc.
I suspect that, at this point, you had no (or minimal) family & friends in your new location (hence start from scratch). When you care about the opinions of your social circle, on goes the mask, and hey presto!: persona - which gets in the way of any emotional connectedness (which for women equals no sexual 'spark', to use their dumbass terminology
). When you have no social circle, you DON'T GIVE A FUCK, and end up like 'Grinus' sig (although this can be impeded by nerviousness about being new in town, etc....)
Putting a persona on requires an effort, and it can be seen and felt by others. And you may call mumbo jumbo but to me it is not only about mindset and body language, it goes deeper than that.
The effort in and of itself may not be the problem; it may simply be this: I am coming round to the belief that in our natural state, men & women are HARDWIRED to want to fuck one another, and the persona, coupled with our social (and therefore not natural) aims, simply gets in the way of that. Therefore, the irony is that, although one of the (many) aims of developing a persona is to "add on" something to us so we can get laid, it actually has the OPPOSITE EFFECT!!
And you may call mumbo jumbo but to me it is not only about mindset and body language
Not mumbo jumbo to me at all. This is one of the (many) problems with the PUA approach: they emulate the RESULTS (body language and all that crap) as opposed to finding and nurturing the CORE SELF (I don't know what else to call it offhand), and their techniques become just another persona.....
it goes deeper than that. I don't know how to call it but it really seems that people and other living creatures are connected to each other, call it collective unconscious or whatever you like - had same experience with cats and parrots that roark said.
EUREKA!!! (runs down the street naked
) I totally agree. So does Jung, actually:
.....involuntarily exercises an influence on his environment......... It is an unintentional influence ON THE UNCONSCIOUS OF OTHERS,......
(Carl Gustav Jung - The Undiscovered Self, Chapter 7; emphasis mine)
I propose (subject to correction or refinement after further observation and experience) that conscious minds are all separate from one another, but all SUBCONSCIOUS minds (especially the ones whose bodies are in the same vicinity as one another) are kind of 'coupled' together. Therefore, as society becomes more dependent upon the conscious mind to the exclusion of the subconscious (and bear in mind that this is exactly what happens when we attempt to suppress our instincts in order to avoid being like the "animals" we frown upon, although there are obviously other reasons that we do this) the more isolated we feel. As if this weren't bad enough, the repression of the subconscious also twists, distorts, and perverts the natural instincts. Therefore, although we feel like cringing in fear or shaking our heads in disgust at what we are seeing in the world around us today, it is actually perfectly understandable.
To add: some scary shit may be happening in the world today, for example with regards to how women are treating men, but we should probably try to keep in mind that, the more we get our inner life sorted (and come to terms with our subconscious, thereby learning to use it rather than the other way 'round), the less these events will apply (and happen) to us. And even if they do happen, WE WILL KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM. (I am saying this more for myself than anything, since I am still in a state of slight anger and disgust over what I have learned since I (and this forum) opened my eyes.)
Back to what I was saying:
Jung postulated that the two aspects of the psyche should cooperate, or if that proves impossible, to at least be allowed to fight on an "even playing field". Reason should be allowed to insist on it's rightness, since it is the only way we can successfully maintain a society and peacefully coexist, but instinct should be allowed to say what it wants to say, and be listened to rather than just being dismissed. Something to that effect, anyway.
Week after I was complimented by so many girls it felt akward.
This is something I myself plan on learning to deal with. Not only does it negate the effect, but it's not fair to them, and even more importantly, it's not fair to me. Actually, thanks for bringing his up. While typing this, I just realised - I deserve this. IT'S TO BE EXPECTED. My only obligation is to not misuse it (which is impossible, if conscious intention dissolves the effect..... life is such a PIMP
thanks again for that one, Dali)
Great post, rekieter.