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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:06 pm 
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In my observations/experience, women have cared less about discretion than men.
I believe the plausible deniability requirement, fear of consequences etc all to be part of the framework of control that women like to keep men in, but can readily ignore.

Women's loudness during sex, compared to men who are more like silent ninjas, is possibly one indication of this, that women like to make their activities known. Women are also the more attention seeking of the two sexes.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:12 pm 
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ahk wrote:
In my observations/experience, women have cared less about discretion than men.
I believe the plausible deniability requirement, fear of consequences etc all to be part of the framework of control that women like to keep men in, but can readily ignore.

Women's loudness during sex, compared to men who are more like silent ninjas, is possibly one indication of this, that women like to make their activities known. Women are also the more attention seeking of the two sexes.
Case per case basis to be sure...and I really don't care about what kind of control women think they have over any given situation. As long as I get what I want out of the parasitic symbiotic agreement, then whatever floats their boat. Whatever she wants to believe is HER problem, not MINE. 8-)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:43 pm 
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ahk wrote:
In my observations/experience, women have cared less about discretion than men.
I believe the plausible deniability requirement, fear of consequences etc all to be part of the framework of control that women like to keep men in, but can readily ignore.

Women's loudness during sex, compared to men who are more like silent ninjas, is possibly one indication of this, that women like to make their activities known. Women are also the more attention seeking of the two sexes.
Case per case basis to be sure...and I really don't care about what kind of control women think they have over any given situation. As long as I get what I want out of the parasitic symbiotic agreement, then whatever floats their boat. Whatever she wants to believe is HER problem, not MINE. 8-)
Plus, what evidence do you have that men are quieter on average than women? I've never seen anyone provide any proof that is true. Maybe YOU are quieter, but that doesn't mean all men are...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:55 pm 
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Personal experience, neighbours, porn.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:13 pm 
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Women's loudness during sex, compared to men who are more like silent ninjas, ...
FUCK, I'm a woman :( :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:21 pm 
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Plus, what evidence do you have that men are quieter on average than women? I've never seen anyone provide any proof that is true. Maybe YOU are quieter, but that doesn't mean all men are...
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Here’s a question we ask the audience every time we give a public presentation: If you’ve ever heard a heterosexual couple having sex (and who hasn’t?), which partner was louder? The answer we get every time, every place—from men, women, straight, gay, American, French, Japanese, and Brazilians—is always the same. Hands down. No question about it. Not even close. We don’t have to tell you because you already know, don’t you? Yes, the “meek,” “demure,” “coy” sex is the source of the high-decibel moaning, groaning, and calling out to the good Lord above, neighbors be damned.
btw, this is not something i'm particularly interested in, i just remember hearing about this article. When I google it I get part two and not part one, but this forum post showed up with both in the results (no idea what this forum is)

http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17957

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:27 pm 
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Actually I know more than few guys, who feel bad about their girl not makin any noises or little, in bed..

And I didn't mean it I'm louder than dem girls but I'm not a silent ninja AT ALL :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:56 pm 
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...and just like that, this thread is derailed. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:58 pm 
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...and just like that, this thread is derailed. :lol:
I knew it wasn't grumpy cat.. It was GRUMPY KIDD ! :evil: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:35 pm 
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Yeah, I know the post in question was about prostitution, but the deeper meaning FOR ME was the view of both bride & groom being offered up to society, as objects, to be used for the greater good of society, with little thought given to them as individuals:
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Now that the wedding is over, nobody could care less about the bride or groom or the wedding. The focus is now on who is ‘next’ to be cherry picked from their lives and thrown to the lions to be devoured. All society ever seems to do is marry and breed. We are apparently no good for anything else
This may not have been the main point you were making, but in addition to the prostitution theme, this was what I got out of it (and other things too, which I won't bother to go into here), and it is indeed a form of objectification.

Relax roark.

It's much worse than you think. :mrgreen:

Nobody is given up for the good of society. If this were the case, we'd have a good society. All individuals are 'given up' for the purpose of transferring control, pride at the achievement and, of course, entertainment. It is what is discussed immediately after the child is born. The Matrix movie is very, very real in this regard.



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1- there are many possible reasons, faaaar too many to list here, but what I like about this question is that it boils down to how I perceive myself and therefore present myself without realising it, coupled with how she perceives herself and therefore perceives how I have presented myself, thereby her choosing what she sees that has value to her. Something for me to reflect on - thank you.
2- plenty, some of which I am aware of and value, some of which I don't value, and some of which I am totally oblivious that I have.
3- Usually not, in my ESTIMATION, but sometimes it could be similar, though obviously not identical.
So, just to recap:

1. Loads
2. Plenty
3. No


Some serious thinking there. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:49 pm 
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fufe wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
...and just like that, this thread is derailed. :lol:
I knew it wasn't grumpy cat.. It was GRUMPY KIDD ! :evil: :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:53 pm 
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The Kidd!! wrote:
...and just like that, this thread is derailed. :lol:
Hey if talking about the sounds that female apes make when they're fucking isn't super relevant, and sure make your life better, I don't know what is! :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:38 pm 
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The Kidd!! wrote:
...and ego will fuck you over EVERY TIME. :ugeek:
YES, YES, THIS, THIS!!!!

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Flow83 wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
...and just like that, this thread is derailed. :lol:
Hey if talking about the sounds that female apes make when they're fucking isn't super relevant, and sure make your life better, I don't know what is! :lol:
Seems to me that this thread went schizophrenic long before ape noises started being contemplated...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:44 am 
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In my opinion, a woman getting a man to hold secrets is kind of like them getting a man to hold their handbag or purse. The act itself seems meaningless, but presumably it gives them a feeling of security or control, especially if it's a high value man.

Getting a badboy to accede to such requests is possibly highly validating to a woman, and they think they are in control, but inevitably get disappointed/burned because men dont attach any actual significance to such tests.


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