Natural Freedom

hey guys what's up, so I'm going to stop my crusade against the seduction gurus soon. However I posted something about M.W. at the puahate forum, but I tried to be objective and not too harsh. Anyway as a part of my post I wrote:

"natural grounding won't make you a women magnet but can be done just for fun or as a 'reminder' of what the feminine nature of women is...."

then someone replied:
Now this got me thinking that maybe Palmy\Nicole just have a warm, open and friendly vibe.
maybe it's not necessarily feminine energy.

I don't want to talk about myself so I'll use 'The Kidd' as an example:
I spoke with The Kidd on Skype and felt that he had a warm, open and friendly vibe. (these days you are more cold Kidd and I hope you are working on it )

but anway: does that say anything about his male nature?

Yes Kidd is alpha I have no doubt about it but there are alpha males who are not friendly and are very closed.

I used The Kidd as an example but on the other side:
didn't you ever see women that were feminine but at the same time close and not friendly?
and didn't you ever see women that were not feminine but were open and friendly?

This got me thinking a lot about all this feminine nature thing. Could it be that we or at least I got it wrong?

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I think about it like that since months. I don't think that the girls the guys usually "ground" to are like from another star than all the other women. They may love what they're doing and Nicole is smiling on almost every picture, professionaly taken or not and thats her mood most of the times.

They seem to feel good during their shows and videos and a person who feels good and laughs a lot is kind of attractive. But I really don't think that they have a different "energy" or "natural character" at all. Every woman who has really fun laughs like Palmy.

"natural character" is a redundant, spiritual gloss of simply having a good mood. And if you start with premises like that, no wonder, there are guys who adore those girls like godesses and start a cult...

Thus ends another myth of "Natural Grounding" - Myth busted

Edit: Hell, the more I think about "Natural Grounding", the more I think its maybe biggest Hooey ever...

"Natural Grounding - The power method for sexual attraction, polarity, wellness, non-ego and inspiration" says the banner of NG >

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nicely put Dr. Awesome

I guess we all want a feminine woman as a long term partner or wife. However feminine does not necessarily go hand in hand with friendly, happy and good vibe. So to say that feminine = this, this and that is an exaggerated generalization.

someone I know for example, married a girl from Argentina. I have met her and noticed that she is feminine (has feminine qualities). But she is not so friendly and he says that she treats him bad (he actually said she is a witch in the house)- they are getting a divorce now.

so feminine does not automatically means: warm, friendly and with a good vibe.

I see a lot of girls who you could say are not so feminine but have a friendly and warm vibe, While sometimes I see feminine women who are not friendly and with no warm vibe.

Also, just because Palmy smiles a lot, looks happy and has a good vibe in her music videos- does not mean that she is like that in real life to everyone.

maybe if I met her on the street she would not be like that
what do we really know about her?

Edit: how can you reach 'non ego' by watching Asian music videos

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

Very well written, Sniper.

Its good that you introduce the word "feminine" in this context. I can't say that I'm able to put my understanding of "feminin" into proper words but I can say that I know when I see a feminine woman. And feminity isn't necessary an attribute for women only. There are feminine men, the way they move or behave and there are masculine women.

And I agree that there are feminine women who don't have a good vibe and the opposite.

Rion really made his expression of "natural character" out of nothing. He even mentioned that girls with "natural character", ergo happy women who smile a lot, are alpha. I wonder what he would say to many asian girls who smile a lot but unfortunately never learned to speak for themselves and are very submissive.

I guess he would say that they are:

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Dude this is so accurate, very well put.

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Its weird I know a natural feminine woman and she is absolutely awesome she reminds me of Nicole Theriault and most of the men I know that know her have a thing for her, and who could blame them!

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haven't you read anything in this post?

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

I did but that was the best way to describe her!

I also know a lot of women with feminine qualities who are pretty slutty, Rion was referring to Alphas are archetypes that Palmy was the archetype of the perfect woman and that feminine women = the perfect woman.

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Ok but that's Hooey, how does Rion know she is the perfect woman?
he never met her in person or had a relationship with her
She displays a good vibe and some feminine qualities in her music videos- yes
but does that make her the archetype of the 'perfect woman'?

if he had said something like:
look at her feminine qualities and good vibe for inspiration- that would have been Ok. But to worship her like a goddess and say she is the perfect woman when he doesn't even know her?


with that, I'll say no more and please read:

http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=750

don't skim Read!!

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

I think that he tried to get in contact with her and some posts on facebook were weird and maybe he met her by now.

I imagine how he welcomes her:

"Hey Palmy, I have awesome news for you, I promote masturbating to your music videos! Wanna work together?"

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

I also want to mention something I mentioned in my Thailand trip report:

I watched the documentary: Bangkok Girl (reccomanded by TML). It is really sad. Behind all those cute smiles there is a lot of sadness and grief that some poor Thai women are going
through and they are hiding it. Someone who doesn't know the reality in Thailand and just sees the smiles will not have an objective view on reality...

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

If you read up on Thailand culture it becomes apparent how many westerners think Thai people are happy all the time. Showing emotion or sadness is considered a sign of weakness in Thailand and instead you should smile and hide it. There's a reason they call it land of smiles, but it's definitely not because they are happier, it's just another form of social conditioning.

Hey that was me, you're quoting!
Thanks for doing so! The first time in my life I know off, I get quoted in such away on a forum.

I guess then there is nothing left to do for me, then have some good ego tripping over this. And thinking I'm all great.

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It's impossibly as a human to be happy all the time. At least I know I've never been, not seen anyone else.
What I have become is being peacefull almost all of the time, and it shows. Outwardly only not the time when an emotion takes over, but those usually pass away within minutes.
To add. I notice the expectations, seem and are imo beyond human.
It's impossible to be happy and positive all the time. Also being firndly to everybody, doesn't seem healthy to me. Every so often, some type of people only respond to unfriendly behaviour, because else they will continue (try) doing something that might cost you.

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Hey scarface,

great insight you had on 'natural grounding' and Palmy so I had to quote you. Very good observation indeed

also see what I found about Thailand 'the land of smiles':

http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=825

I was in Thailand a few times and always wondered about those smiles

and BTW I'm glad you accepted my invitation and joined us. Welcome

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

The funniest thing is, that most guys believe that "feminime nature" is only consisted of things that they may like.

I tend to believe the more I get to know girls, that feminime nature is play, colors, smile etc, but "dark" things like being "slutty" (not only with only one guy for life). Experienced guys have to understand this..