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Author:  peregrinus [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:13 pm ]
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Personally I have changed careers (not just jobs, careers) more than a couple of times.

I have also taken a few periods of over 2 years off from work totally, living off my savings.

Because of this I have been criticised by women...

Do I care?

no, it made me happy, it was my choice, it has nothing to do with them.

It has however managed to discount a whole number of them from qualifying to spend time with me.

Do what you want to do... It is your life, live it.

Author:  rant [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:08 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote:
Personally I have changed careers (not just jobs, careers) more than a couple of times.

I have also taken a few periods of over 2 years off from work totally, living off my savings.

Because of this I have been criticised by women...

Do I care?

.
haha this is a similar way of living i allways been,but i used to care about women/family/friends criticizing me.

my friends have it as a joke in women conversations, that i work two months and rest one.

Author:  Star_Above [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:42 pm ]
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peregrinus wrote:
Personally I have changed careers (not just jobs, careers) more than a couple of times.

I have also taken a few periods of over 2 years off from work totally, living off my savings.

Because of this I have been criticised by women...

Do I care?

no, it made me happy, it was my choice, it has nothing to do with them.

It has however managed to discount a whole number of them from qualifying to spend time with me.

Do what you want to do... It is your life, live it.

It's funny because Esther says this in the manipilated man, if you change jobs and such to do what you want to do you will be viewed as unreliable by woman and society in general . Fuck em!

Author:  Scottie Pimpin' [ Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:32 pm ]
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Great thread, bravo!! I didn't think anyone else noticed all these subtleties in this raging war we call the battle of the sexes. It pains me 2 see so many of my peers content with having their very souls in the grasps of some of these manipulative women... Won't these cats ever learn? But like all of you guys are saying the programming is so subtle and is coming in from so many different angles that at times it can seem hard 2 escape. I kinda like it though because like my man Darwin says... It's survival of the fittest In this bitch!

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:16 pm ]
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@Libertas

I also encourage you to read Esther's second book - it will give you better understanding.
One thing she mentions in her second book (I don't remember the exact words) is that Men have strong libido - which is a very strong and good power because it drives them to build things, create things, invent things, achieve goals and etc...

The downside however is that it is harder for Men to control their lust and sex drive because of libido- if they want to control it they have to train themselves harder (than women).

Women on the other hand want sex and enjoy sex but since they don't have libido they can control their lust and sex drive better.

And since today (like you said) sex is everywhere in advertising and women dress like sluts - it activates our libido all the time.

But learning to chanel that energy and awarness I think is the key :geek:

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:24 pm ]
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Women have plenty of libido...men just never give them enough space to allow it to manifest and reach critical mass. :geek:

Author:  Slim Titan [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:40 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Women have plenty of libido...men just never give them enough space to allow it to manifest and reach critical mass. :geek:
Dear God, let this fundamental truth ring from the tops of church steeples and bellow from the bowels of hell.

Edit: That statement is very true. My cousin, primarily player and not pimpish, told me that he had to learn, from a female that is above the normal beauty level he gets with, to let the girl give him some pussy.

In my opinion you cannot understand this shit until it happens to you directly. What I mean is not speaking of sexual shit with a female, not investing time in the female, not touching the female in a sexual way, generally sticking to your principles while interacting with her on your terms, and then watching in amazement as she begs you to fuck her.

I think you're going in a good direction if she says she feels like she can be herself around you. Everytime I've heard that phrase, I was given some coochie with females putting in some work.

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:59 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Women have plenty of libido...men just never give them enough space to allow it to manifest and reach critical mass. :geek:
In general Men have much more libido than women (some women are masculine and might have more but I'm talking in general). As proof you can see that most women are passive and don't have a drive to do things\achieve goals like Men.

Also was mentioned in the book that most women have learned to control their sex drive from a young age -
And as proof you can see that in general: men are more hardwired to want sex and that's why men are chasing women and not the other way around....

@rkd1990
they are rare men who have learned to control their sex drive and then women are begging them to have sex with them. But these Men are rare

@Kidd
maybe you have learned to control it better due to your army period and the environment you were in?

Author:  Scottie Pimpin' [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:14 pm ]
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I keep my libido under pimp arrest... Mind over matter and money over sex.

Author:  Slim Titan [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:06 pm ]
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@ Sniper:

These men are only 'rare' because they realize the reality of the world.

Most of the individuals who graduate pimp school on this forum will be apart of that 'rare' group.

Also, these men are not 'rare' per se. Most of them have been born from nearly life altering

or life altering experiences. Controlling libido is just the basics Sniper.

It's a fundamental part of being a man.

My uncle asked me a really good question a while back instead of giving me the answer.

He said, "How can you control/influence any other person if you can't control yourself?"

Its rhetorical, but the question demonstrates a very important point.

As applied to the general United States male population, I would not consider most

American males to be 'men'. I would consider them 'boys' and at worst

naive, infantile, and stubborn symps.

So, it's just a part of growing into manhood.

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:20 pm ]
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rkd1990 wrote:
@ Sniper:

These men are only 'rare' because they realize the reality of the world.

Most of the individuals who graduate pimp school on this forum will be apart of that 'rare' group.

Also, these men are not 'rare' per se. Most of them have been born from nearly life altering

or life altering experiences. Controlling libido is just the basics Sniper.

It's a fundamental part of being a man.

My uncle asked me a really good question a while back instead of giving me the answer.

He said, "How can you control/influence any other person if you can't control yourself?"

Its rhetorical, but the question demonstrates a very important point.

As applied to the general United States male population, I would not consider most

American males to be 'men'. I would consider them 'boys' and at worst

naive, infantile, and stubborn symps.

So, it's just a part of growing into manhood.
@rkd
good points and I agree with what you said. Another point is that the system often creates guilt around sex and then the desire is often suppressed but the lust can't be 'killed' and that's where a lot of problems come in...

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:29 pm ]
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Sniper...you read too much. :|

Don't believe the hype...women have WAY more libido than men do. 8-)

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:34 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Sniper...you read too much. :|

Don't believe the hype...women have WAY more libido than men do. 8-)
well if that were true then you would see women chasing men not the other way around (true that many men today are 'boys', but still.... if women had way more libido they would still do the chasing :roll: )

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:54 pm ]
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Listen slowpoke...don't get smug with me because YOU can't read between the lines...remember who you are talking to. The escort you are dealing with...is she not pursuing you? :|

Just because your concrete thinking process can't wrap it's head around something doesn't mean that I don't know what I'm talking about...sit the fuck down with that bullshit. :roll:

Author:  Sniper [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:18 am ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Just because your concrete thinking process can't wrap it's head around something doesn't mean that I don't know what I'm talking about...sit the fuck down with that bullshit. :roll:
Dam Kidd I was trying to ask a question, but I guess I didn't explain it \ phrase it well.

Let me rephrase:

if that were true then why don't you see women chasing men all over the place and instead we see men chasing women?
If women had way more libido wouldn't they do the chasing?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:25 am ]
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Sniper wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
Just because your concrete thinking process can't wrap it's head around something doesn't mean that I don't know what I'm talking about...sit the fuck down with that bullshit. :roll:
Dam Kidd I was trying to ask a question, but I guess I didn't explain it \ phrase it well.

Let me rephrase:

if that were true then why don't you see women chasing men all over the place and instead we see men chasing women?
If women had way more libido wouldn't they do the chasing?
The answer is simple:

BECAUSE MEN LACK THE PATIENCE TO WAIT LONG ENOUGH TO GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO. :roll:

Duh. :|

Author:  Sniper [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:48 am ]
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Ok I got it now. why get pissed off?


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Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:55 am ]
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I despise redundancy. :ugeek:

Author:  Slim Titan [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:56 am ]
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Sniper it's all about control.

Sniper, you quoted my post, but you slept on what I was saying.

The women I've fucked or am pimiping out right now want sex more than me.

They initiate sex because of the way I operate and the way I control myself.

You got kinda snippy there Kidd. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sniper please don't sleep on this response.

I took this explanation about libido from Wikipedia:

Libido refers to a person's sex drive or desire for sexual activity. The desire for sex is an aspect of a person's sexuality, but varies enormously from one person to another, and it also varies depending on circumstances at a particular time.

Note the part that they say on circumstances.

Men's circumstance stays the same. Get my drift. Our libido is constant.

Women's circumstance changes.

That coochie stays wet around the clock because women's circumstances change.
The balances of power they see change everyday.
They are affected by this.

A little more evidence for you is that women have those sanitary pads or whatever they're called.
They sell pads that pick up female moisture.
Why? Because women's libido doesn't go down because it's constantly reset by her estrogen levels
and the men she sees everyday.
Their testosterone also does not drop like male testosterone. Our levels dip because we produce
semen and have a high octane machine like body that runs off the shit all day.
We only need to shoot once to have a to reproduce.
Women may need multiple inseminations because they don't ovulate all the time.
Women's testosterone is specifically made to stay constant because they have to be ready
to copulate with a fit male.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:00 am ]
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Quote:
You got kinda snippy there Kidd.
Can you blame me? :lol:

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