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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:44 am 
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Flux wrote:
Interesting, but by this concept, if the man likes women that dominate him sexually then that would mean he's in control in RL. I'm not so sure that's the case.
in real master/slave (or dom/sub) relationship control is always by choice and is only one road to go.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:11 pm 
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Flux wrote:
GoldenBoy wrote:
Like everything, external objects are just reflections of inner conflicts ... good reminder, and good topic that might tingle something in some people :geek:


Side note : Just strolled down a torrent site (with porn if you're 18+), more than half of it (based on the title) was about either rape, submission, hardcore, gangbang, ... where woman is TOTALLY submissive and taken, and opposite.

Made me giggle and cry at the irony of it :ugeek:

Interesting, but by this concept, if the man likes women that dominate him sexually then that would mean he's in control in RL. I'm not so sure that's the case.
NO, opposite as MEN CONTROLLING the woman in the videos (or women controlling women too), more generally, SEEING women get deshuminized/humiliated/used ...

Then you can reverse for real life based on who would watch this type of stuff (apart from panoramix because it stimulates his creativity :mrgreen: ).

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:07 am 
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I disagree with a couple points you made:
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Imo, porn is an easy way to spend time if you are horny and have nothing else to do. ..
With all that's going on in the world and even within the limitless faculties of your mind, how the hell does ANYONE ever have NOTHING to do lol. If you're too horny you can transmute that energy, especially when you could be doing something more productive. If you don't have goals in life that's fair enough but life itself is not so boring that you can never occupied.
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It also forces me to confront topics like jealousy, i.e how comfortable would I be with fucking or having a relationship with girls like that. Imagine being able to say to a girl 'i'll want to fuck you even if you'd just fucked every other guy in this bar'.
Watching a movie (with the knowledge acquired here) dealing with this sort of issue to assess what to do/not to do I can understand, but I fail to see how jerking off to women on a screen teaches you how to deal with that situation in real life, the reality could be much different than what's being sold to you.
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I saw one girl test her guy for jealousy at a bar (by slow dancing, touching, sitting on the lap and finally making out with a handsome but obviously gay guy) and the pain he was going through was apparent to all who noticed.
That guy's a pussy and she's cheating on him, unless they're in an open relationship she should be fired for that sort of behavior.

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:08 pm 
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My current life situation is such that I really have nothing I 'need' to do. Except eat when I'm hungry, and fuck or jerk off when I'm horny. Also, philosophically speaking, I have thought about what I 'should' do in this world. My current view of that is similar to what's mentioned in the 'Three doors to wisdom' thread on here (h/t GoldenBoy), Carlos Castenada, Bob Munroe, Tom Campbell and Stephen Davis theories, and (surprisingly) the Bhagwad Gita.

If I'm watching a desirable woman fucking a random guy, I am forced to have my desire for her confront my jealousy that she's enjoying getting fucked by someone else. Comes out pretty starkly. You can also do visualizations with real girls for this to come out. I picture girls having just come from being fucked airtight by three black dudes. Gets rid of any anxieties, prevents any kind of posturing or showing off (i.e no way I can top that experience or want to), or an ownership mentality.

The guy most likely brought it upon himself by claiming he would not get jealous. That would of course provoke any girl into testing, and this girl was a 9 or a 10 in looks. He was then caught in a double bind of watching his girl get it on or admitting he was jealous. He did the only thing he could, walk away (actually more like ran away). I am better able to deal with desire for girls I can't own (which is always the case in reality, no matter what the girl does to convince you otherwise)


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:43 pm 
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ahk wrote:
My current life situation is such that I really have nothing I 'need' to do. Except eat when I'm hungry, and fuck or jerk off when I'm horny. Also, philosophically speaking, I have thought about what I 'should' do in this world. My current view of that is similar to what's mentioned in the 'Three doors to wisdom' thread on here (h/t GoldenBoy), Carlos Castenada, Bob Munroe, Tom Campbell and Stephen Davis theories, and (surprisingly) the Bhagwad Gita.

If I'm watching a desirable woman fucking a random guy, I am forced to have my desire for her confront my jealousy that she's enjoying getting fucked by someone else. Comes out pretty starkly. You can also do visualizations with real girls for this to come out. I picture girls having just come from being fucked airtight by three black dudes. Gets rid of any anxieties, prevents any kind of posturing or showing off (i.e no way I can top that experience or want to), or an ownership mentality.
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