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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:29 pm 
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Well fellas, its been a long time since I have posted anything. Instead, what I have been doing is reading, TRYING to understand, looking at myself and making some changes. Pardon my non-participation in the discussions, I just knew that I had a LOT of work to do on myself and the way my mind was at that time my discussions would have been a whole lot of hooey as The Kidd!! calls it :) I've been the type to just take things in first before even discussing it (if I even would discuss it) and I'll be honest, THAT actually helped me here in this forum because honestly some of this stuff on here was seemed so cruel and downright inhumane to some extent that I was ready to dismiss it all. However, I kept reading the stories and learning from all of you. The Kidd!! your views in particular is hard to process, hard to conceive that it is ok to think of women the way that you do, however, after reading some of the stories you have shared on here ironically, these women are in awe of you (I believe Peregrinus said that in one post at some point-bare with me Ive read so much can't quite recall exactly who said what). That in itself got me thinking for a LONG TIME. You speak of your keeper in a high regard, yet put her through tests, and still have an open relationship with her. I still have a hard time understanding how you can be this way with someone you consider a keeper. You and Peregrinus have a great way of balancing the knowledge. You each have your own style of delivery and when you two go in tandem to make a point it is HIGHLY effective, for that I thank you both (as well as for everything else!)

This stuff is hard to digest, it is hard to accept, but the stories shared by everyone on this forum prove that it is necessary and it works (congrats Alchemist on your recent victory of your PERSONAL change-not on getting laid but on YOUR changes that got you there).

So, with all of that, thanks again to all, and The Kidd!! thanks for sharing your harsh, albeit sometimes inhumane ways of thinking, and your stories that back them up. Peregrinus your way with words leaves just enough out there to make one really think and figure things out on their own-again you two are a great combination on this forum.

Now, on to what I have done...Kidd, you really helped me see (and through the numerous thrashings you have given some of the others ;) ) that the most CRUCIAL aspect to changing my life is to change it FOR ME. First thing I did was let the ex go...she wanted to walk out the door, it was time I stopped trying to deadbolt the lock. I have since been promoted at my job, moved out and got my own place-although its small, its MINE and I EARNED it. I removed myself from my negative environment and started building my confidence. Im still working on identifying deeply what needs to be changed. Although I haven't posted in a while, all of the posts I can relate to in some way, which tells me that A.) This stuff REALLY is that simple in that it is universal to all of our situations and B.) This stuff is REALLY damn hard because most of us struggle with still accepting things and changing things.

I have gone out on a few dates just to kind of get the feel of it all again, but I'm doing so not for an end result of getting laid, or even looking for a girlfriend, but Ive been going on these dates to work on my observation skills (and not just on dates but in general everyday outings as well, as well as observing myself) What kind of vibe am I putting off, what is MY body language telling her, what is hers telling me, am I still being too much in her space as I used to be with previous women, am I giving HER the chance to come to me, IS SHE coming to me, are there other women in the vicinity that are interested in me, what am I doing at that time that other women are noticing me, am I giving HER the space to fill it, is the "girlish" like giggle that slipped out and the blushing of her cheeks after she realizes she did it allowing me to feel enamored or entertained?

I would like to hear more of some of your stories-a few in particular and maybe its more appropriate on PM
Alchemist-you mentioned with losing your virginity, that you felt it was overrated. It really seemed to have no effect on you either way-It sure seems that you solidified YOUR OWN MINDSET and was prepared for that outcome, do you feel like because of that mindset you were unable to enjoy it to its maximum capacity?

Sniper-You mention traveling and loving Asian women, do you go to Thailand to get a "fix" or an escape from your environment every now and then? To still induldge in the women a little and throw in a little "self discovery"? I ask, because I sometimes wonder if Im doing this myself. I don't travel, but as I said I removed myself from my environment to satisfy myself.

The Kidd!!-Your post on the mindset and premature ejaculation had me thinking for WEEKS on this and I am STILL trying to fully apply it. I will be honest here, I have always nut pretty quickly :oops: ALWAYS! I have tried to think about baseball, the list of things I need to do that day, I tried all those little "tricks" and I still would bust one fast. Now, after reading how you went emotional with your keeper and came faster than minute rice, and reading your post about having too much sex in one week, 4 women in 5 days (that had me laughing and so jealous at the same time :lol: ) I'm a little confused, with your baby's mama you did it just to do it and it was boring (may I ask did you nut faster or slower than normal? Either trying to get it over and done with or just not in to it, it was difficult to nut?), you also mentioned in the post there was another one who turns you on so much that you didn't last long with her (however, you said she was a regular so how did mindset play in to you busting fast with her?), and your keeper you said when you went emotional you came faster than minute rice, yet being logical it was a chore to cum...

I can understand how my mindset absolutely was wrong with previous women and that is why I busted one so fast, however in the last few months I have been with a couple women "just to do it" and I STILL BUSTED TOO DAMN FAST! Is it all mindset and how I feel about the girl/situation or can it just simply feel that damn good? With the way your mind is, and the points you brought to light about the emotions and premature ejaculation I find it hard to understand how YOU nut quickly with any woman?

Peregrinus-You are pretty lowkey on here, you shared a post about how your mind works. My question is have you always been this in control of your life/thoughts/words or were you also at some point like some of us? You just seem so controlled. Your post about your meeting at work and ripping them new ones without them fully knowing it grabbed my attention also because of my promotion. Its all about delivery and that is something I need to work on (as well as much more)...

Any and all feedback is welcome! :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:47 pm 
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First of all, Brilliant post betrayed, really nice to read it.

I am personally glad that you took the time, read, thought, digested and let it ruminate in your mind and body. It shows an approach I can appreciate :D

BRAVO!

More posts are not always a good thing, sometimes less is more. I feel you have found that. I appreciate you sharing your process and progress with others on here.
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My question is have you always been this in control of your life/thoughts/words or were you also at some point like some of us?

No I have not.

Looking back, I was probably more so than those around me at the time. It has increased with time and maturity and a lot of work by myself.
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Its all about delivery and that is something I need to work on (as well as much more)...
It is all about delivery, you are very correct.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:22 pm 
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Wow. :shock:

Well, thanks for the vote of confidence...and mucho gracias for not posting more redundant ass shit while you were processing! :lol:

All the answers are here...thanks for taking the time and keeping an open mind. I've always said the Red Pill is VERY hard to swallow...but if you want REAL CHANGE bad enough...you'll find a way to do it. 8-)

My method IS universal...that's why Iulian pissed me the fuck off. The key is you have to "FREE YOUR MIND" in order to get it, see? ;)

As far as your quick-to-nut problem...I would wager that you are more concerned about pleasing yourself than pleasing the woman, be it consciously or subconsciously. Introspect on it, chew on it...and THEN discuss. 8-)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:55 pm 
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great post man, thanks for sharing. I would love to hear more about you and why you were
'betrayed'
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Sniper-You mention traveling and loving Asian women, do you go to Thailand to get a "fix" or an escape from your environment every now and then? To still induldge in the women a little and throw in a little "self discovery"? I ask, because I sometimes wonder if Im doing this myself. I don't travel, but as I said I removed myself from my environment to satisfy myself.
I go to Thailand for one simple reason: for vacation (to rest).
Why Thailand?

A. because it's very cheap- The food is cheap and I stay in guest houses that are around 10$ a night.

B. There are many nice places to see in Thailand and fun things to do.

I don't go there because of Thai women, the truth is: most of them don't speak any English so it's hard to communicate with them.

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Up for all to see.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:08 pm 
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I've only just seen this now.

No I don't know why I didn't 'enjoy it to its full capacity', I don't really see it in that way, I just didn't give a shit anymore and went for it.

Also the experience was different than what my idea of it was before.

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