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Author:  caliboy85 [ Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:41 am ]
Post subject:  Cannot stop fantasizing
I have pretty much cut off Porn and MB but im finding that when i am alone in the bedroom i cannot stop fantasizing about beautiful women that i see earlier in the day(especially the one's with the big booty's).I just can not get the visual images out of my head.It seems like when i am around these women i hide my desire for them but when i go home i think about how hard i am going to fuck them and how they will be screaming and moaning.It seems like this has turned into a fetish and i can't stop it.
Author:  Flow83 [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:21 pm ]
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The part of you that wants to hide it and not feel it is resisting it to the point where the energy builds up and it will break like a dam, flooding you with images, feelings etc.

It is counter intuitive but if you feel the desire fully and step into it fully, you will not turn into a beast and start doing stupid, needy or overly aggressive things around these women but it will flow without resistance.

Resist persist.

When it comes up while home alone, instead of combatting it, thinking you are not supposed to feel it / be indifferent / let go (all mind stuff) step consciously into it. Notice where you are caging the animal and let it out in your mind/gut. Let it go crazy. This wont feel like fantasies or thoughts.

Let go means take your hands off of.. opening the cage doors- not try to push away. You may find the whole structure dissipates quite naturally and all that energy frees up for other uses.
Author:  Alchemist [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:13 pm ]
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Hormones man, just ride it out, it still happens to me sometimes, and that's with regular sex lol
Author:  Flow83 [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cannot stop fantasizing
Alchemist wrote:
Hormones man, just ride it out, it still happens to me sometimes, and that's with regular sex lol
Sex drive isn't going anywhere (even sex just calms it down) - it's your relationship to it that matters :geek:
Author:  Sai [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:55 pm ]
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Only one thing to say: all of that shit is negative attachment and you need to kick the legs from under that pedestal :|



Wait that was actually 2 :? ;)

Desire is not bad, but when you carry these women around like the young monk did even after he had crossed the river,you are bound to not reach sage status.

Jiraiya knew when he was being led.
Author:  Slim Titan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cannot stop fantasizing
caliboy85 wrote:
I have pretty much cut off Porn and MB but im finding that when i am alone in the bedroom i cannot stop fantasizing about beautiful women that i see earlier in the day(especially the one's with the big booty's).I just can not get the visual images out of my head.It seems like when i am around these women i hide my desire for them but when i go home i think about how hard i am going to fuck them and how they will be screaming and moaning.It seems like this has turned into a fetish and i can't stop it.
Why do you have images over emotions? Ask that question to yourself. Why is it that you place yourself in the picture versus just seeing her sexuality? Question everything, especially why you aren't talking to them if you're super sexually attracted. Do you think they may not be attracted to you? Did you actually find out?
Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cannot stop fantasizing
I'm not talking to them because they didn't jock me.I am trying to focus on the principles here on not choosing a woman who doesn't choose me.Basically, i don't have enough on them to evoke a guilty plea.
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:59 pm ]
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It's your brain...control it. :geek:
Author:  Slim Titan [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cannot stop fantasizing
caliboy85 wrote:
I'm not talking to them because they didn't jock me.I am trying to focus on the principles here on not choosing a woman who doesn't choose me.Basically, i don't have enough on them to evoke a guilty plea.
When a woman really likes you she probably won't show it in ways that you'll normally see. I've had women that would seem like they're cold as ice to other people in public because they're masters at cloaking their emotions. When I'm alone with them they're the total opposite. The same goes for when I met them in public. They put on a fake ice persona that melted away as I interacted with them. In each case with those women, I could tell they liked me until after I talked to them.

I'm staunch as hell, but having principles doesn't mean you can't approach a woman that isn't jocking you.

You'll never evoke the guilty plea if you focus on evoking the guilty plea because you'll seem expectant. Evoking the guilty plea naturally comes from good principles. You'll know when to give them space for acting fake if your principles are straight. Then, you'll naturally get a guilty plea. Often times, you don't need to evoke the guilty plea, nor should you attempt to evoke the guilty plea because you start a count down on the two of you. If you don't hit or break her in that unspecified time frame then everything fades into dust. It's not smart to attempt to evoke the guilty plea if the woman is just jocking because jocking isn't choosing. It's not often that jocking is synonymous with choosing. Most of the jocking you get is subconscious until you elevate yourself to a level where you're ready to be chose in the woman's eyes.
The Kidd!! wrote:
It's your brain...control it. :geek:
Also, THIS^^^
Author:  caliboy85 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cannot stop fantasizing
@rkd

I am by no means an expert on this and still have alot to learn however, i was curious how does talking to a woman who isn't jocking you differ from the cold approach of PUAS.My understanding is that we do not approach woman(since we are more likely to hit a home run if she is jocking from the start) rather i thought it is their job to approach us if they are truly interested in us.If i approach the way you describe won't she be thinking what does this guy want from me? As opposed to if she is already checking you out, she has given you a reason and you can call her out on it.One line kidd used from a different forum is "Since you just wanted to stand there and glance and me all night,one of us had to say something.so how are you doing?". Essentially i am waiting for this oppurtunity the moment i get heavily jocked then bam hand out the number and leave it to her to call if she is interested.I know you said that you can't plan to evoke the guilty plea because you will seem expectant..Can't i just hide being expectant by cloaking and putting on a poker face myself?
Author:  Slim Titan [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cannot stop fantasizing
caliboy85 wrote:
@rkd

I am by no means an expert on this and still have alot to learn however, i was curious how does talking to a woman who isn't jocking you differ from the cold approach of PUAS.My understanding is that we do not approach woman(since we are more likely to hit a home run if she is jocking from the start) rather i thought it is their job to approach us if they are truly interested in us.If i approach the way you describe won't she be thinking what does this guy want from me? As opposed to if she is already checking you out, she has given you a reason and you can call her out on it.One line kidd used from a different forum is "Since you just wanted to stand there and glance and me all night,one of us had to say something.so how are you doing?". Essentially i am waiting for this oppurtunity the moment i get heavily jocked then bam hand out the number and leave it to her to call if she is interested.I know you said that you can't plan to evoke the guilty plea because you will seem expectant..Can't i just hide being expectant by cloaking and putting on a poker face myself?
Man. I'm not even going to start.

Don't trust me dude. Just recognize when you're reading against the grain of what's on this site.
Author:  Altair [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cannot stop fantasizing
It's not about the words it's about the subtext behind the words.

In the situation your talking about with Kidd!! from another forum. I bet there was a lot of jocking before that and definitely conscious jocking on her part. I dunno though never read it.
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