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Author:  caliboy85 [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:44 am ]
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Just wanted to start a journal on my day to day observations about women i run into and what i learned.

Author:  Dali [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:44 am ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
Just wanted to start a journal on my day to day observations about women i run into and what i learned.
What about your inner feelings, toughts, observations; about the women you ran into?

I reckon, that was my best of times. The mirror of my soul.

Author:  Altair [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:07 pm ]
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Dali wrote:
caliboy85 wrote:
Just wanted to start a journal on my day to day observations about women i run into and what i learned.
What about your inner feelings, toughts, observations; about the women you ran into?

I reckon, that was my best of times. The mirror of my soul.

"If you gaze deeply into the abyss..the abyss gazes into you :ugeek: " Nietzsche

Author:  caliboy85 [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:16 am ]
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Last night i tried an experiment.I went out and bought a Marc Ecko fleece sports coat to wear to the club.When i was in high school i used to dress like a thug but as i got older i grew out of it and have been dressing Metrosexual ever since (now 27).I tried this because alot of the Latina and white women influenced by hip hop culture seem to go for black men who dress like that.So i put on the new jacket and went to the club with a more retro look.I leaned back on the wall and acted like i was not interested in dancing with anyone and like a laid back G.Well it turned out i didn't get any women approaching me and very few if none looking at me.There was a tall black dude standing next to me he was about 6"3 and this white chick pushed her gf towards our direction and i was expecting her to push her into me but instead pushed into the tall guy standing right next to me so she can grind him.At that moment i was really hurt.My internal thought was that it was because this dude was much taller and more thug looking.Anyways, i realized the mistake i made was trying to dress like someone who i am not. I'm going back to dressing like a rennasance man and will start experimenting with different environment where women appreciate a normal dressed black man and not a thug.Also i am going to have to be less passive and start approaching women and being direct like David X.I think its possible to be direct and unattached to the outcome.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:20 am ]
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You're kinda taking the scenic route, but I give you points for perseverance. 8-)

Author:  peregrinus [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:00 am ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
i realized the mistake i made was trying to dress like someone who i am not.
caliboy85 wrote:
I will start experimenting with different environment where women appreciate a normal dressed man.
caliboy85 wrote:
i am going to be less passive and start approaching women.
caliboy85 wrote:
I think its possible to be direct and unattached to the outcome.
^^ THIS

Author:  Altair [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:40 pm ]
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I find it easier to let them make the first move even if its non verbal makes the rest of the process less time consuming.

Author:  caliboy85 [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:20 am ]
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I have been to burlington coat factory twice once to buy something and another time to return something.I have seen this chick at the register who is about a 6 jockin me and giving me the looks...I have given her space and not tried to get at her..I was thinking today going back there and telling her that this is the third time i have seen you now and i have say i really like your energy..i think you would you make a good friend (put her in the friendszone) and then ask for her facebook.. What do you guys think of this idea?

Author:  Altair [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:03 am ]
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Girls get friend zoned if they do something bad or you don't like them.

She hasn't done anything, she might not
Even be conscious of it.

Space is not a technique to get something. It comes from a position of being evolved.
Your at peace enough with yourself that the end result of your interaction doesn't matter.

Your not denying your attracted, your simply having the discipline To keep it to yourself and letting her have the mystery and excitement.

It's like holding open the door your saying its cool, you can have the fun on this one.

What your doing would be seen from her point of view as weird. She would know what your doing as soon as you opened your mouth and would also know that you don't have self belief from the fact that your taking such a route

Author:  caliboy85 [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:14 am ]
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so when should i give her my info?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:37 am ]
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Author:  caliboy85 [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:05 am ]
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"What your doing would be seen from her point of view as weird. She would know what your doing as soon as you opened your mouth and would also know that you don't have self belief from the fact that your taking such a route"

Morpheus can you please explain this one to me?Are you saying i should keep giving her the glare and not ask for anything..isnt there gonna be a time where i am supposed to ask her out?I don't understand why she would think i don't have self belief, i thought it shows that you have balls to tell her to hit you up

Author:  peregrinus [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:20 am ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
so when should i give her my info?
When she asks for it

Author:  Altair [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:23 pm ]
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It's weird because your giving her way too much attention to simply friendzone her.

When you don't try to keep the conversation going
Or get a way too contact them is when they will go out of their way to keep your attention.

My record is broken :(

Author:  Sai [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:22 pm ]
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Morpheus wrote:

My record is broken :(
:lol:

Author:  caliboy85 [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:34 am ]
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Went to the bar last night after work..There were about 20 people there and all of them where part of a social circle at work..One of the guys that i ran into was there all over those girls he was in his 40s and could be old enough to be some of there dad..I am sure he got social proof because they all worked together..Anyways as an experiment i decided to wear contacts and i was getting eyed by a few chicks..I have also been growing out jawline sideburns.One of them held eye contact with me for a good 3 seconds as she walked out the door. I didn't approach anyone since they all know each other.Lesson of the night,looks do matter to women.Maybe its not the only thing,but I felt confident because of my appearance.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:54 am ]
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Lesson of the night, looks looks matter to women. Maybe its not the only thing,but I felt confident because of my appearance.
What is wrong and right about this sentence? :geek:

Author:  Sai [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:57 am ]
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Weak foundation caliboy.

Author:  rant [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:45 am ]
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caliboy85 wrote:
Anyways as an experiment i decided to wear contacts and i was getting eyed by a few chicks..I have also been growing out jawline sideburns.One of them held eye contact with me for a good 3 seconds as she walked out the door. I didn't approach anyone since they all know each other.Lesson of the night,looks do matter to women.Maybe its not the only thing,but I felt confident because of my appearance.
you got a warning about using contacts but is good that you experiment with that anyway.

it sounds as if your past lesson came only becasue you did'nt got good responses.
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Last night i tried an experiment.I went out and bought a Marc Ecko fleece sports coat to wear to the club.When i was in high school i used to dress like a thug but as i got older i grew out of it and have been dressing Metrosexual ever since (now 27).I tried this because alot of the Latina and white women influenced by hip hop culture seem to go for black men who dress like that.So i put on the new jacket and went to the club with a more retro look.I leaned back on the wall and acted like i was not interested in dancing with anyone and like a laid back G.Well it turned out i didn't get any women approaching me and very few if none looking at me.
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i realized the mistake i made was trying to dress like someone who i am not.
but againg is good to try those things to see how your ego do shit, i supose that's yout intention. :geek:

Author:  Slim Titan [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:13 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
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Lesson of the night, looks looks matter to women. Maybe its not the only thing,but I felt confident because of my appearance.
What is wrong and right about this sentence? :geek:
There's no such thing as an ugly man. YOU'RE JUST FUCKING LAZY.

Re-read the whole shit about front in the archives. Then look for some of my threads on front and fronting if you want to get in the door.

HINT: The newer your clothes look the better. The fresher (newer looking) your kicks are no matter what the better. Don't worry about style except for making sure tones and colors match.

Spare no expense on yourself and the woman will spare no expense (WITHIN HER ABILITY) on you.

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