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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:46 pm 
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“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

I was thinking about how the movie situation played out in my head and this popped up. If your indifferent you don't engage anyone because you don't need anything. So your not "going to war first".

There's no leakage or revealing your hand because you don't have one. They have to move first and you can decide accordingly. Your cutting to the baseline of interaction, you are the stimulus and they are the response. There's no deeper level they can play on to manoever you. (actually that's Rion's idea reverse engineered)

“Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent s fate.”
― Sun Tzu

And these are on moving under the radar.

“In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them”
― Sun Tzu

“Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

“In battle, there are not more than two methods of attack--the
direct and the indirect; yet these two in combination give rise to
an endless series of maneuvers.”
― Sun Tzu

“He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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"The Opponent initiates an attack first and I respond second but hit first." - Tai Chi Classics

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While I think Sun Tzu was a genius and think a lot of his teachings relate to what is being said here, I can't help but feel put off by relating his quotes to getting together with women. Is it really "war" we go into, and isn't the larger victory less attatchement and indifference, as opposed to "winning over the woman"?

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Oh I just don't look at the word "war" I agree it's not THAT serious.

But the underlying dynamic of what he says is perfectly applicable.

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