It seems that everything is clear now, so I will extract all those things I've accumulated in my brain, cleansing up a little bit.
Why writing another thread on this subject ? It has been said so many times, rewritten, quoted, reinforced, manipulated that my honnest answer is, FOR MY SAKE
One minute spent really living is better than the time reading all those things, so don't expect anything out of this ^^
The italic parts are my thoughts while writing (I could have posted the thread under the name : Golden Boy, thought naked ^^)
Part 1 : The quest, what gather "boys" around this type of forum (even if this one is wayyyyy better ! )
It seems that certain people come to this kind of forum (for the PUA community is founded on this and some come with the wanting of another teacher) with the demand of ways to "seduce women" (getting them into bed as fast as possible, blah blah blah), they focus all their energy on "how can I make that bitch happy" (referring to Chris Rock) ... so that they can have what they "can't resist....'nana" (Kidd). They are ready to do EVERYTHING to get into their pants (being nice, agreeing on everything, lying, corrupting themselves, paying).
So why do the majority fail ? Doesn't it seem contradictory with the common belief that you HAVE TO be nice to women ... to get them ?
Part 2 : The changing of mentality :
If that dude would just realize for a minute that if he spent all that money he had spent on her....on HIMSELF, eventually someone would approach HIM.
It's your life "Rule #2 - YOU are the most important person (in the relationship). David X".
Another way to put it "women want to be taken on an adventure; they don't want to BE the adventure. Zan"
Basically, you must live YOUR life, not following what everyone else wants for you (quotes are also meant to be a joke for this one) -> CREATE YOUR OWN RULES, FOR YOU !
Even if you like the Kidd, Peregrinus, Brent and others, you notice that they are all DIFFERENT, UNIQUE ... in appearance, BUT they all share one thing in common, they have their "OWN" MINDSET, so don't be like them, BE YOURSELF.
Find what makes you unique, what makes you tick, DO EVERYTHING in your power to better your life (to have a life you're PROUD of, content), it's like growing from boy to becoming a MAN.
Everything else comes into place after this.
WHY ? Because it's a double edged sword:
- When you want to achieve something, everything is put on perspective, and you realize that what mattered before may be getting in the way of the things that you really want. -> YOU BECOME ATTRACTIVE (CONFIDENCE + INDIFFERENCE)
- "Their subconcious mind picks up on the content vibe, that you are
not 'looking'. This causes them to react conciously to get your attention, " Kidd
"all we men need is a little patience. Sure, you can get what you want now if you want to work for it, but why not work on yourself, bide your time, then watch broads work on getting with you? " Kidd
-> THEY LOVE IT
Is that all I have to say for the mindset ? ...
Ah, I got it
What I forgot to say is why it is SO IMPORTANT to focus on YOURSELF :
1) BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS DO THIS, but not in a good way ...
"As a man thinks in his heart, so is he" James Allen quoted the Book of Proverbs chapter 23 verse 7.
"A man is what he thinks about all day long." Emerson
"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford
oh my god I'm speaking of the Law of Attraction
How does your MIND direct your life ?
A more accurate question would probably be, Why have you let your mind rule you ?
The subconscious is a "meaning making machine", it takes what you PUT YOURSELF into, and DIRECT ALL ITS ENERGY towards that goal. That's why affirmations WILL NEVER WORK !!
You have to go beyond thoughts, to the "REAL YOU".
Basically, you can spend all your day saying "I'm a badass with women, I'll make 10k next month, I have a big ... (bank account
), AND staying in front of your computer, nothing will change, because THE REAL YOU is : IN FRONT OF YOUR COMPUTER SAYING AFFIRMATIONS !!! That's what gonna attract things to you.
From this, two roads :
-Instead of affirmations, A WHOLE EXPERIENCE (Visualizing, Smelling, Feeling, Hearing) -> LIVING as if it was ALREADY THERE ... (the brain cannot say the difference between reality and this "daydream")
-Instead of affirmations, REALLY LIVING, focusing on other things, LETTING GO OF THE WANTING.
That closes my view of the mind.
I understand Kidd and Grinus when they say they have a hard time putting their thoughts, knowledge into words ...
2) BECAUSE WOMEN RULE THE WORLD (so THEY decide their mate) !!!!!! (Some will choke on this red pill)
YOU CAN'T MAKE A GIRL ATTRACTED TO YOU! Period (OF COURSE she can still be attracted to your money, cinema, drinks, restaurant ... as long as you keep offering it)
From this, only one intelligent thing to do -> CHOOSE THE BEST ONE WHO CHOSE YOU !!!
One quote to remember : "Once you are sexually attracted to someone, it NEVER goes away, no matter what they say." Kidd
The important question here isn't "How can I make this girl like me ?" BUT "How can I be sure which girls like me ?"
One path to follow : BE A DETECTIVE -> Observe, analyse, gather evidence, make her confess !
Or even : BE SUBTLE LIKE THEM (When you think she knows not much about you from what you said, BE SURE that she has noticed your watch, your smile, your smoking, your handcase, your "behaviour", anything to put a "PRICE" on you)
Kidd's Covert Tactics is all you need for that (once you have the mindset)
Apparté :
The Four Stages of Competence
Unconscious Incompetence
The individual does not understand or know how to do something and does not necessarily recognize the deficit. They may deny the usefulness of the skill. The individual must recognise their own incompetence, and the value of the new skill, before moving on to the next stage.[2] The length of time an individual spends in this stage depends on the strength of the stimulus to learn.[3]
Conscious Incompetence
Though the individual does not understand or know how to do something, he or she does recognize the deficit, as well as the value of a new skill in addressing the deficit. The making of mistakes can be integral to the learning process at this stage.[4]
Conscious Competence
The individual understands or knows how to do something. However, demonstrating the skill or knowledge requires concentration. It may be broken down into steps, and there is heavy conscious involvement in executing the new skill.[3]
Unconscious Competence
The individual has had so much practice with a skill that it has become "second nature" and can be performed easily. As a result, the skill can be performed while executing another task. The individual may be able to teach it to others, depending upon how and when it was learned.
This goes for everything.
What can you take away from it for "growth" in a field (exploring everything you don't know, putting yourself into situations you know trigger you) : The "fifth stage : conscious competence of unconscious competence".
The goal (obviously) is achieving Unconscious competence.
It can take decades, years, months ... depending on your will, your efforts and dedication.
Part 3 : The reap
"Remember, everything happens for a reason" Kidd
Once she's attracted to YOU she will "put herself in position" (being in sight, starting conversation, "accidently" bumping into you, rubbing herself ...) do what you want with it/her.
THIS is the advantage, she's REALLY attracted to you, not some "representative" you show, and maybe she doesn't even know it ... or at least wouldn't suspect that you know.
Now that you've sown the seeds of your "new life", it seems that women can be qualified as "weeds" on your garden (read : they appear by themselves in your garden which they like) and whether you decide to keep it or not is your choice. (Some weeds are amazingly good for YOUR health, others less)
Here ends the "organized part" which is MY INTERPRETATION of the teachings of The Kidd and others
Now, "pot pourri" of ideas and concepts :
The concept of Space :
What is the first thing that pops in my head when I hear space ?
The "void", the "blackness" of the night without moon.
How to relate to this ?
Reduce your amount of thoughts
(I was gonna say "try to" but there is no try, only doing), speak less, spend time alone.
Sloggan here : LESS IS MORE.
Always follow the KISS principle : Keep It SSimple (I'm not calling you Stupid unlike someone
)
How does it help you : Calmness, more energy (less spent), more focused (In my opinion only, I didn't do any scientific research on it
).
BYPRODUCT : The less on your part, the more "they" will "have to" fill on their own (which they love).
ABC of MINDSET :
A = The knowledge : Pimposophy + Covert tactics
B = Becoming a man : Bettering yourself, taking responsibility for your thoughts and actions : CONFIDENCE + INDIFFERENCE
C = The results: You can act accordingly to your set of values and preferences for women who YOU KNOW want you, and letting her do all the work (easier and easier when years pass thanks to Marquee Value)
Some random thoughts :
What is the most important element of all those teachings: the Mindset.
Which questions has driven man crazy since the development of the mind : "What is the meaning of life ?" "How to be happy ?" "Who am I ?"
Can these questions be answered ? YES & NO
Why ? Because the only tool which can be used to answer is THE VERY ONE that asked the question, so the only way to answer is only by killing the question, to really experience the answer.
"The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The named is the mother of myriad things
Thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence
Constantly with desire, one observes its manifestations
These two emerge together but differ in name
The unity is said to be the mystery
Mystery of mysteries, the door to all wonders" Tao Te Ching Ch1
Is knowledge good or bad ?
It seems that for material goals, knowledge ease up the process of having what you want (what kind of car do you want ? Learning a new language ...). Knowing what to look for, gathering everything you can will sure help you having it faster.
On the other end, for "spiritual" goals (How can I be a better man ? How can I be happy ? ...) it would be the opposite, really just "do nothing", letting your core express itself instead of covering it for the intent of discovering it. Then knowledge comes with the wanting of yourself.
Exemple : When you try to learn a language, you already know the process of it , you start learning the basics, then grammar, vocabulary, ...
When it involves you, you don't really know what to look for, so you will see some gurus / teachers to know what to do. This is a dead-end for many because money comes into play and some people just love it ... So you will end up sniffing through one nostril after another, repeating mantras all day, anything. Of course some people will tell you the "truth", YOUR QUEST IS THE THING THAT STOP YOU FROM BEING WHAT YOU ARE (WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT) -> zen meditation, letting go (Buddha achieved his state under a tree, not when he was in the cave starving ...)
The liaison of the mind and the body :
Train The Body - The Mind Will Follow <-> Exercise your mind and the body will follow.
Did you ever wonder why you're calm after a long day / physical exercice ? Because of this.
Why is there a meditation to look every inch of your body and relax that part ? Because it calms the mind too.
I wouldn't go as far as saying that every "chronic disease" (read, not "born from an external stimulus" like a bruise, burn ...) is in the mind or the contrary, but it sure is linked on a level.
What can one take away from this : If the body is relaxed, the mind is too, letting go of tensions in your body help your mind.
Simple exercice for the sceptic : Focus your attention on your body and relax it, you'll see the effects on your mind
(and that's when you will say : nothing changed and I say you did wrong )
Is society crazy ?
I would say it depends on many factors :
1) What is crazy ?
The fact that the "poor / weak" women can do what she wants ?
"In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water (read women). Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it." Lao-Tzu
That some directors earn $$$ when they kick out employees to earn more ?
That we throw our food / water when other starve to death ? (and often we exploit the same countries for our good)
2) What is society ?
For me, it's just a big fat giant community of people.
If it's a community of people, maybe the problem sits IN people, not in society
What to take away from this : You can't chagne people, you can only change your behaviour.
3)Even if it is, why living by the rules of society ?
When you know the rules and consider it "bad", you can learn how to break them.
Or even to live by your own rules, freeing yourself of these rules (of course you still part of it).
What is the only way to live a fulfilling life ? Nature / Nurture
From nature you received your genes, your body : Yourself as a baby, the REAL YOU (your natural state).
Nurture either reinforce your "nature" which leads to having a healthy life, or the opposite.
How ? Your genes are constantly repairing, rebuilding themselves from your environment, what you learn through life ...
What to remember ? We are all good at something, we all have our "personal legend" to live.
"We cannot command nature except by obeying her" Francis Bacon
Personal translation : "We cannot change our nature, so we have to accept to be what we ARE"
Basic dichotomies :
From the moment you start to separate the one (read : when your mind starts), there is always good or bad, tall and small, rich and poor.
You can see the stupidness of these with your mind :
- Is a spider bad for catching a butterfly on her web ? (if you say yes, consider that the butterfly have lived freely all its life before being catched whereas the spider just waits and waits possibly starving if nothing comes to its web)
- "my '92 Honda Accord on 16" chromies is all the rage in Tucson, AZ, but it ain't SQUAT here in Las Vegas, NV. " Kidd
But you can't intellectually get rid of these, because they are defined/linked on/with their "contrary".
You can't speak of rich people if there is no poor people, get it ? When do you draw the line between rich and poor ?
Freedom of choice
I choose not to speak of it
Joke appart, I think that there is no such thing as freedom of choice.
What you think today WILL BE your tomorrow, so everything you do today as been thought of before, but as for you don't listen to your thoughts, you're not aware of this ...
When you "are aware", however, you are also aware of your "path", so even if it's you can "jump this building", "stay in your bed", you KNOW that it's not the best thing to do for you, so it's the same, you have the freedom but won't use it, for the better ...
Why would you want freedom of choice when you know all of your choices lead you to what you want ?
Now ends my "endless" post for now (I may add a few things later on when I something pop in my head ... it's kinda like my journal)
Again, I post this for putting my thoughts down, to clear things, to get rid of these thoughts in my head so it's calmer than ever up here.
I don't think it has value at all for others, except if you want to know how my mind works (which I doubt ...)
PS : I didn't reread it entirely so it may be "impossible" to read ...