Natural Freedom

Last night I was fortunate enough to realized some very profound things. And ironically yesterday was one of the shittiest days I've had until later in the night. I haven't been visiting our beloved forum for a while now, because I wasn't sure if I was ready for this...I showed up, but didn't proceed with the work. Things needed to be reassessed in my life.

About a month and a half ago I shot some shit with a fella at a bar and exchanged numbers. We're now good friends and go out regularly. I had no idea this man was such a ladies man when I first met him. This is the first person I've met that is phenomenal with woman. Woman literally are drawn to him. I always like believing in the motto "Nothing is Impossible". However, when you actually see something in person it hits you so much stronger. It's nice to know that this type of success is possible. Now to my realization...

I was pretty depressed laying at home, and we already had plans for the night to go out. I was planning on not going though. I told myself I needed to get f*** out of the house. I got up and left to his place. We chatted for a bit and throughout that he etched in some of his beliefs. He told me:
*If you purse sex much of your life than you probably don't get laid much
*You need to find your passion a.k.a know what you want to do
*Anything he ever wanted he got: his job, his car, moving to US, girls he wanted (I realized how powerful we are if we believe in ourselves).

What I learned from all this was for the past 3-4 years I've been pursing PUA or ladies man status that I lost my way. And its no surprise that these past couple of years have been the most shaky, up, and down times of my life with no solid foundation. At some point I lost balance, and believed that if I can get ass all day than my problems are solved; everything will fall into place. He told me some cold facts that I needed to here. I told him I wanted to be a bartender, and he said, "You only want to be a bartender for the girls ". He was dead on. He said I should find out what I want to do and not focus on girls.

I know guys...much of what this guy says it what we talk about here!
For that reason I became aware that I have this guard up. In my eyes I put so much into this, but I don't reap the rewards like I feel (which is a bad view on it). At the same time I block myself from deep change by not accepting there's things I don't know. It seems like I have a "know it all" mentality or/and stubborn.

I'm taking a learners approach and keeping an open mind to all material I read on this forum and in life from this moment on (12:45pm). I'm not putting all my focus on woman anymore (12:45pm). I said before I'm going to focus on myself, but I was full of it! I didn't understand what that really means...taking care of yourself spiritually, mentally, and physically. I neglected much of that, and the deeper reason for my past attempts at focusing on myself was coming out as a ladies man.

That was a big night for me! I'm looking forward to chatting with you guys on a regular basis again

Look this path we are offering is not a quick fix but then again:
quick fixes don't really work...

if you read Cameron's article which I put in the 'treasure chest' you will also see that all seduction Gurus have some kind of edge that separates them from the rest of the 'regular guys' (not always money or status...)

If you take guys like Swinggcat or Sinn - they have a high level understanding of social dynamics and a good understanding of social-psychology (sometimes to the point of Micro-detail level). It took them a lot of learning and hard work to get to that place but, you can be sure they didn't do it just for the purpose of getting laid. If they only did that to get laid I don't believe they would keep doing it for so long without not giving up.

Now, maybe they did it to learn how to get women but they had a higher passion and goal in mind. Maybe their higher passion and goal was to figure it out and then teach other men how to do it.

without a higher passion or goal it's very hard to do something and stay consistent at it.

Neil (Style) did not become a writer in order to get women.

Zan the fag, also believes he is helping men become 'better lovers'

even Rion in his own way thinks he is 'enlightening men'- although he doesn't do boot camps or other things that require more hard work.

Steve P - did not become a metaphysical teacher just to get girls.


anyway,
if you want to learn social-psychology, pick up, how to push girl's buttons and etc- then it's a lot of hard work and if your only purpose of doing it is getting laid - then prepare for a lot of frustration.

if however you want to learn pick up for a higher purpose then maybe you should consider it.

Me personally: I don't study pick up because I don't have a goal to 'someday' teach it to others.

Some say that you can get value from some of the pick up stuff and maybe it's true. But no matter what system you follow- it takes a lot of time and effort. There is no system that can turn you into a women magnet over night: I know because I read most of the stuff out there before I came here.

so think and choose, what do you really want and what are you willing to do in order to have it...

Also, why haven't you read the books I sent you yet?

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

Because he was not ready for them when you sent them.

Simple.

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

I think I also need somebody in real life to reflect stuff on this forum and help me.. I'm often at situations I don't know what I'm really doing and would appreciate some live advice.. It's been only me helping other guys, I've been told few times (I don't know how tho, since I don't really have succes anymore..)

I still wonder where the old fufe went. You seem to have got it and then something happened.
I have no idea what...

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

When I first started when I was 18 (Mystery & Neil) I did it with passion. I did it to what I thought was to become a better man, and back then sex was a something that showed I was progressing forward & fun. I had intentions to get my shit together and someday teach others the world of dating. Not like the PUA community today, but a more 1 on 1 approach where it goes far beyond dating. I still have that passion, but it was lost until you brought it up in this topic.
Simply wasn't ready for them. The last thing I need on my plate is woman and their worlds. My first priority is to untangle the hang-ups that I cling onto: low self-esteem, self-hatred, and past emotions.

Listen to that voice of wisdom during those introspective moments, you will have much to benefit from it, it's kinda like having your own version of Kidd/'Grinus inside your head.

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"Simply put, you being in her life is a BLESSING. Her wronging you in any way is her own self-inflicted CURSE, and if she does wrong you, then let the punishment fit the crime. Her life will absolutely SUCK without you."

I just realized today the reason I lag or rather no reap the rewards of my labor is, because I don't accept my present state. I'm in denial (in a sense) of where I am. I don't accept that I'm x,y, or z.

I get down on myself, because I put much focus on this area of freeing oneself and barely see much of the outcome. To put it in a picture through words: I keep going forward, but end up back at the same place I started from; like a merry-go-round.

Any advice on deep level change? Other than acceptance of where you are at the moment.



Insights/Realizations I've had:
*I'm LAZY (I don't understand I need to be consistent)
*I lose focus of what I want at times
*Fear has my nutz at times
*I'm a information junkie (sucks though, I read more/Do less)

you will have to work on changing this if you want to make progress in any area in life.
you will have to work on changing this if you want to make progress in any area in life.
you will have to work on changing this if you want to make progress in any area in life (feel the fear but don't let it stop you)

sounds like a broken record
use this and read the dam books already
you read so much pick up stuff but the books that can help set you free- you refuse to read.

Look, the support is here but no one can do the work for you. You either take action or stay in the same place- you choose

One thing I will remind you is this: reading more pick up won't save you. With pick up you also have to take action and a lot....

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"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"

Well...at least you know what to work on.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

I think I fucking love you guys!


Hahaha

And Sniper, too bring a smile on your face....I just opened the Manipulated Man pdf

That which shows most resistance in my life is that which I must face.

Excuse me while I go read the Bible. I meant Manipulated Man.

He fears it may work.

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

After reading the introduction and letting it sit for a bit I had a visualization of what my life would be like and a sense of fear arose. Fear of success? I'm not sure.

Fear of the truth...and how it WILL forever make otherwise delicious steak taste funny to you...

...not to mention how BAD it will make you feel for enjoying steak for all these years...but don't worry...time will pass and so will those initial feelings.

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

I'm halfway through the book, The Manipulated Man. I was messaging Sniper how by reading that book many of the issues we discuss on this forum become so much more solidified. The light bulb effect goes off when reading the book! Shit is off the wall. The things this woman says is breathtakingly true.

As far as the fear issue I stated I felt that was a habit I have of building up smoke to steer myself off track. I contemplate so much about making a decision that by the take it comes to just make the f'ing decision I'm so built up with fear and doubt that I'm stuck. I've had this belief, like in the movies, that change must happen with an overwhelming realization that changes your life like that. Hence, this is the reason for my lack of action; I believe I must wait until I FEEL good until I can proceed with the task at hand. A bunch of hooey that I've ingrained from youthful movies and Disney garbage.

It takes some time&growth for our VISION to open
before we can see VALUE where it previously
didn´t seem to exist.

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