I recall you advocating such a train of though peregrinus. Would you care to share why you changed your views?

People on this forum change the be all end all of everything on a whim. I call bullshit

I could make her jump through some massive hoops in the future, but that's just for ego's sake, fuck it...in my opinion stuff like this isn't worth your time.

Yes. Yes. Yes and yes.

It's great to see at least one other person on this forum who clearly understands that he can devote his time, energy, influence and universal power to other areas of life and does not need to be caught up in petty game playing.

That's what self respect IS.

You guys think I spend time and energy on this stuff?

The shit writes itself...I only deal with it when it presents itself to me.

Lol we had discussions on this last year, the whole illusion of control. You are the one who confirmed it on Skype. Also your posts in Kiddz Corner even say it kinda matters what she thinks because she is the one who will ultimately let you in. I'm sticking to my position on this.

As for the i know we're friends part, there was a better way to say it but I cannot remember I don't even the there was any mention of friends in it. I actually tested it and it worked...kinda. You know what. Discarded .

The standstill part is from my own experience, depends on the situation if it's a shy girl. Then yeah I'll give her a call in a day or two. Or if no plans were made. But if she said she was gonna call me then I would not.

I admit I posted things in my brain verbatim, some of the information I don't see a reason to back down on though.

In fact some of it works better, it's like like drawing a line in the sand and if she crosses it you call her on it. One of the parts that I really liked about your posts is that it is a 2 person interaction vs every other "guru" who says the onus is on you.

So this girl I was talking to sent this to me today...

"hey sorry i never got back to you this weekend. I've had a major set back and am not good company right now."

"hey sorry i never got back to you this weekend. I've had a major set back and am not good company right now."

You guys think I spend time and energy on this stuff?

I recall you advocating such a train of though peregrinus.

It's a hobby of mine...and it time and energy I do spend on making women that have wronged me in the past then come back in the future

Indeed. Actually that's what I was going to say to fufe when he asked why you did it, but the question was addressed to you..so...

Nothing wrong with it. Just no good can come of it. Especially for guys with little skill, no experience and underdeveloped intuition.

When?

Show me

It's in the Inception thread last year. In the Lounge.

I only ever used her advice once, but parts of it make sense to me. In fact most of it applies to the action we would take anyways. If your in an interaction with a girl and she's not giving anything to you any attention? You "brush it off" and go somewhere else no big deal.
You have to be giving something. There's a difference between giving something and throwing yourself at someone. If you show a bit of attention if you see signs, and if she's taking without giving back or being bitchy. Then fuck it, be aloof.

So this girl I was talking to sent this to me today...

"hey sorry i never got back to you this weekend. I've had a major set back and am not good company right now."

We were suppose to get together this weekend and she was suppose to call, but never did.

Now for all you fellas with your wheels turning wondering how you would reply right now, I'll give my 2 cents and how I'm gonna handle the situation.

First of all (And I'm sure Kidd and 'grinus will agree) actions speak louder then words...I don't give a fuck what the words say in this message, the fact is that this girl is bailing on me and making an excuse...she met someone else who she perceives as higher value in her heiarchy ideal than I and is choosing him.

I garuantee if it was Johnny Depp or whoever, her setback could be anything yet she'd be like "Ya we should defenitly still get together, I need someone right now".

As to how to reply...some guys might give her shit, be like "Fuck you then!", some might try and win her over "C'mon, give me a chance", some might try and play the sensetive card "Oh really, anything I can do to help?"

Yet because I'm not a fuck'n retard and can see right through this I will do none of it, I will not respond to this!

By not even replying or ceasing contact it makes them wonder, then with it falls through with the guy they brushed you off for and they come back and pretend like "Oh no, I've always liked you, I don't know what happened before" (Like what happened to Sniper in his Marquee value thread) then you've got the ball. What you do with it is up to you, but I don't tolerate this shit, I could make her jump through some massive hoops in the future, but that's just for ego's sake, fuck it...in my opinion stuff like this isn't worth your time.

I was dancing with another friend in a club when Jane randomly came up to me and started dancing and talking with me.

I gently pushed Jane's friend away. Immediately, I see Jane by my side.

I said "Sure, you gotta take me out then." She agrees.

I attempted to make her choose. This failed,

I finally told her to just take me out to dinner. She says "Deal!!"

I gently pushed Jane's friend away

When you read this back, does it give you the impression she chose you, or is she messing you around?

Polite? or Staunch?

There also is a big lesson in the above

...and THAT'S where you fucked up.

So...what you're saying is...you pushed away the chick that's choosing you...so that you can choose Jane...and then 'attempt' to get Jane to choose you back?

I told her I had to leave, offered my number, gave her my phone so she could get my number, took back my phone, and then left.