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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:05 pm 
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Found this on the web. http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

I'll post just the male - female convo here, Rollos commentary is in the link.
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Me: Is there anything about your past you have been hiding about me?

Her: Why are we talking about this?

Me: I just want to know were you in any type of porn or anything like that?

Her: are you taking drugs?

Me: I found your video from college with the other guys. I don’t know who you are anymore and I feel ill being around you.

She starts crying.

Me: Do you have anything to say?

She continues to cry. This was pointless I go to grab my keys to leave. And she tries to stop me.

Me: If you don’t want me to leave then I need you to be 100% honest with me, and tell me why you lied to me for all these years.

She: I didn’t want you to think I was a slut

Me: I would have been perfectly fine if you told me, I would have loved to have done those wild things with you. Look I get it I don’t turn you on like those other guys do. You liked sucking their dicks but not mine.

She: It’s not that, I didn’t want you to think less of me.

Me: No it is exactly that, there is a thing lying about sleeping with other guys. It’s not that you didn’t like doing those things. You didn’t like doing them with me.

She: I can do that stuff with you. I am attracted to you, you know that.

Me: I don’t want you to do it because you feel like you have to. I want someone that actually desires me.

She: I can change I promise don’t ruin our marriage over this we can work things out. We can go to marriage counseling seriously talk to me.

Me: Marriage counseling won’t change how you feel about me. Look I will try marriage counseling but I want a trial separation for now.

She: Please don’t do this. Don’t throw away our marriage for what I did in college please.

Me: Stop fucking acting like it’s a one time thing. Be honest with me how many guys did you fuck before me. How many guys dicks have you sucked, and how many guys have you let fuck you in the ass.

She: why does it matter, I said I’ll do them with you

Me: I am so fucking lucky. I got married to a whore, that fucks like a prude.

She: Please don’t waste all of our marriage for this. I am willing to change.

Me: I am not divorcing you but I want a trial separation for now, and I want to see how things go, right now I feel sick looking at you.
Goddamn... Seriously this is FUCKED UP. I guess I was in simmilar situation once. Nice reminder on how the reality really IS.
You choose=you lose.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:59 pm 
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Shrug

Summed up well in the dissection.

I do feel the last paragraph does it justice:
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He wants her to want him,

he wants her to desire sex with him with the same verve and enthusiasm she did with other men in her videos.

He wants her sexual best,

but her 7 years of unwillingness to give him that while enjoying the benefits of his provisioning, his patience, love and perseverance only puts her strategy, the Hypergamic strategy, into perfect focus.

Her genuine desire, her sexual best was never intended for him in the first place.
[Edit: I am glad you posted this]

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:39 pm 
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I posted it because it really struck me. Mirror, mirror:)

Few years back I was in somewhat simmilar situation. I was in the position to demand everything from her in bed but I developed temporary ED LOL due to the medicines I was taking back then. Surprise, surprsie at first for the 3 - 4 times we had sex she was doing everything so I could get it up, was horny as hell. Later on she literally stopped seeing me as a man - due to ED and my beta behaviour I developed over it (it was soo fucking humiliating for me). I had to ask for lame sex from er etc - she got some other dude. 3 months later my 'health problem' was gone:D Now I laugh at it but back then it was devastating.

On the other hand, remembring that sitation made me think if she really was so that into me? My gut tells me that she was really genuinely horny at those first times so lets keep it that way. Anyway, who cares lol

I'm going to read this artile every week just to keep my mind in place, I noticed that if I don't keep my mental discipline that little beta/pua/wishful thinking bastard in me raises his head. Just like old habbits returning. That story is so fucked up but so harshly real that I bookmarked it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:55 pm 
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It was devastating for her that she couldn't give you a hard on.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:05 pm 
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I hate to be mean to the guy, but he did set himself up for this. GIANT warning signs all over the place.
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I met my wife 7 years ago, she was extremely picky when it came to sex. She told me she only has been with 1 other guy before. She would never give a blow job, only would do certain positions and found almost every sex act degrading. I was frustrated by this, but I really liked her and hoped over the years she would open up sexually.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:25 pm 
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Rolan wrote:
It was devastating for her that she couldn't give you a hard on.
At first I'm 100% sure that was the case. I remember I was shocked when it happened and "I don't feel anything" slipped form my mouth - she ran out of the room. But later on it really crushed my confidence (my doc forgot to mention about this little side effect so I was still in the dark about he cause of Ed and was horrified by it) and I started to take the guilt in me and she started to blame me - not verbaly but I could tell it from her behaviour. Looking back at it I can't believe I was so clueless of what was oing on - now I can see the balance of power shifting form me to her so damn clearly.
Another lesson learned.
Meraki wrote:
I hate to be mean to the guy, but he did set himself up for this. GIANT warning signs all over the place.
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I met my wife 7 years ago, she was extremely picky when it came to sex. She told me she only has been with 1 other guy before. She would never give a blow job, only would do certain positions and found almost every sex act degrading. I was frustrated by this, but I really liked her and hoped over the years she would open up sexually.
Yea, but is easy to say for us now but lets be real - I was as clueless as this guy and this story really resonates with me. Again, mirror, mirror:)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:24 pm 
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I guess I should have been more specific - its not that he anyone could have predicted that the specific situation would happen. Rather he should have seen that his GF/wife was nutso in a more general way.

Anyone who is that repressed that they find "almost every sex act degrading" has got "problem girl" written all over their forehead. Don't touch that with at 10-foot pole.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:59 pm 
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Interesting read, but it's kinda pointless to even think about this...because he is not gonna leave her anyway. :ugeek:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:12 pm 
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Well, he is lucky in a way - plenty of guys are not even aware of such things

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:21 pm 
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I just feel the guys disquist.
This is absolutely great and horribly bad at the same time


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:36 pm 
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rekieter wrote:
Well, he is lucky in a way - plenty of guys are not even aware of such things
Lucky eh? Been living a lie for 7 years, and he'll still have that bitch draining his resources, emotionally and fincancially, for the rest of his life. He has too much to lose by divorcing her.

I don't think awareness is compensation somehow.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:21 pm 
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Honestly? 7 years in with a daughter and probably no financial protection in place? :|

I'd probably get a vasectomy then fuck her in the ass everyday day. :twisted: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:32 pm 
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Why do I get the feeling that most are focused on the finger?

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rekieter: of course it was your fault, I mean, her ego needed protecting.
It surely could not just be something that happened because of neither of yours fault.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:51 pm 
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So essentially she could never have given him her 'best' even if she tried, because on the most fundamental level she never wanted his sexual attention but rather the provisions he was offering.....the reason she became engaged with him. Besides which, her sexual best is supposed to be represented by being taken by 5 guys at once whilst filmed and admitting what a filfthy whore she is to the camera? This guy honestly wants that?

Hmm.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:58 pm 
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Thank you for proving my point

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:02 am 
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:lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:10 am 
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Oh well :roll:

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Hmm, that looks like what my fate could have been. :geek:

Interesting read, and lol at the only been with one guy part what a terrible lie.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:49 am 
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She went for the water works real quick though.
What else does she not lie about?
And oh, how quickly she wants to perform tricks to pacify him...
Thats some leverage :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:59 am 
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I have some four chan cell phone messages too...

The weird side of the internetz! /b/
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