Defensive much, Golden Balls?

That long windedness betrays you.

...and you know what the hell I mean.

Some people get stuck in this hamster wheel of information...they lose themselves in trying to understand something completely from as many angles that possibly exist. This is usually counterproductive because if you do something long enough it becomes a HABIT. So then you become all knowing with no practical application. All show and no go.

I'm all for knowing what you're dealing with, fellas...but seriously...how many different ways are you gonna need to hear/see/read it to finally accept it and get to the PROBLEM SOLVING PART?

Just be mindful fellas...don't get so enthralled in how many ways something can be viewed to the point that you forget why you went in search for answers in the first place.

@ Meraki

The whole essence of the book is that our biological, evolutionary programming determines our actions to a VERY large, probably unanimous degree. It's not something we, Man or Women, can 'choose' to follow or abide by. It's always there, whether we are aware of it or not. Take Women and babies for instance; It's my belief that a Women's primary directive in their life is to pro-create and harvest a baby. If they don't manage to do it, their gene pool is erased from the planet, and they will 'literally' feel like they have failed their purpose. I'm sure this impulse is just as strong in us aswell, although I can't say I want to father a kiddie right now in ANY way. As an aside, I was thinking about the absentee father phenomenon - I'm not sure it's such an unnatural occurrence tbh. I think it may be a biological 'nudge' for men to go and continue spreading their seed around a variety of other broads. Afterall, when we lived more communally, it was generally considered the communities roles to raise children together, rather than Husband+Wife as the sole carers.

Anyway, you say it's a motivation, I say it's a biological blueprint which no measure of intellect and awareness can allow you to escape. That's not to say you have to father a child to be 'happy' or whatever word you care for, but the impulse will be there and if not abided by, may lead to you feeling a lack later in life. The issue is largely that our society has changed so much that our impulses are incongruent with our environment, which is to say people generally express those impulses in a.....strange way. Our environment is artificial, something I have always felt was undeniable, but could never give clarity too until the last 5yrs or so.

To take it to heart would mean a life of misanthropy. It's important to be aware but for the love of everything good in this world, don't make it some sort of Bible. Believe that there is more to a person than this bullshit.

Why would anyone else have a more accurate picture of your world than you do?

'knowledge addiction'

Just be mindful fellas.

never take anything at face value

"First I shall do some experiments before I proceed farther, because my intention is to cite experience first and then, with reasoning, show why such experience is bound to operate in such a way.

And this is the true rule by which those who speculate about the effects of nature must proceed"

--Leonardo DaVinci

guys you just made my work hard cause im going to need to edit this thread.

May I say that it's also cool to have mods allow this discussion in a thread where it's not really pertinent to do so. Happy weekend fellas

Here's my position on this stuff.

How many times did Neo need to hear about the Matrix to accept it was real? Better yet, how many different ways did he need to hear about it to know it was real? He got the Duracell spiel ONCE...and no further interpretations were necessary.

Then what happened? Did he keep on questioning it? Did he go all redundantly ad nauseam about it? NO!

He TOOK ACTION. He began EXPERIMENTING within the environment. He stopped looking for more explanations and clarifications and began focusing on finding glitches, advantages and SOLUTIONS. THAT...is how I feel the natural (freedom) progression of things should be.

Some people get stuck in this hamster wheel of information...they lose themselves in trying to understand something completely from as many angles that possibly exist. This is usually counterproductive because if you do something long enough it becomes a HABIT. So then you become all knowing with no practical application. All show and no go.

I'm all for knowing what you're dealing with, fellas...but seriously...how many different ways are you gonna need to hear/see/read it to finally accept it and get to the PROBLEM SOLVING PART?

Just think about it...and I'm saying this sincerely as fuck.

Of course knowledge is power...but eventually, the pursuit of knowledge on top of an established knowledge base leads to a stagnancy that is fueled by a 'knowledge addiction'. It's an insidious stagnancy...more like a fear or inability to act BECAUSE you know 'too much'. This is what is detrimental to personal growth.

Just be mindful fellas...don't get so enthralled in how many ways something can be viewed to the point that you forget why you went in search for answers in the first place.

That's the exact point I was trying to get across in the books thread, the few really good ones on the matrix like the manipulated man and all the info here is all you fuckers need.

See 'G's sig.