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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:44 am 
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Thought I create a thread for this book, like that of Polygamous Sex (http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... =22&t=2187) for clarification and questions we have.
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Here are my notes so far...
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We live in a matriarchal society.
^I knew of this, but never really read it anywhere. Woman have a great influence on how things are run in the world. The pussy has many followers :lol:. It seems the drive of life is taught to us to be bounded to the angels slash the woman.

I heard this a lot when I was growing up:

Get a good education. Find a good job. Get a good wife.

It seems like what was being passed down to me was that getting a wife or woman is the pinnacle of life. As if all of your success or work is to show off to a woman who then GIVES you the acceptance you seemingly can't get from yourself. I understand producing off spring is important; only to pass on your genes...is this the ego?

I can't recall a certain moment where someone told me to live life how I want to live, and learn along the way! I could be wrong. Let me know what you think.

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Q. How do we begin to identify a predatory
female?
A. Publications designed for men
bear titles like Sports, Flying, Electronics,
Mechanics, etc., while those sold mainly to
females are called Self, Glamour, Image, Me,
Woman, and so forth.
^Are these woman self-centered or interested in bettering themselves?
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Q. Are you saying the predatory female is an
egomaniac?
A. Her ego has given way to convenience and practicality.
Moreover, she is quietly amazed at the excessiveness
of the male ego. Unhampered by ego,
she is quicker and more adroit than the male.
^Become ego-less? Do our ego's add unnecessary weight to our travels?
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Again, the predatory female is not ultimately
concerned with what men think of her, only
what women think. Keep in mind the old sayings
that "a woman needs a man like a fish
needs a bicycle," and "women undress for
men but dress for women."
^This was a big insight for me. Woman size up one another. So, are we trophies that they put up on the wall? The funny thing is if that is true some men do the same: trophy wife's. :lol:
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Q. You haven't mentioned love as an interest
of the predatory female. Why?
A. The predatory female never loves a man;
she only loves the love. This is a basic rule.
^This is one I'm still looking into.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:30 am 
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:58 am 
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I heard this a lot when I was growing up:

Get a good education. Find a good job. Get a good wife.

It seems like what was being passed down to me was that getting a wife or woman is the pinnacle of life. As if all of your success or work is to show off to a woman who then GIVES you the acceptance you seemingly can't get from yourself. I understand producing off spring is important; only to pass on your genes...is this the ego?
the wife is the trophy or the goal. It's like growing up we are told that we are not important enough...
I'm not sure what you mean by 'ego'.
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^This was a big insight for me. Woman size up one another. So, are we trophies that they put up on the wall? The funny thing is if that is true some men do the same: trophy wife's.
yea but most men who are looking for the 'trophy wife' it comes from the mindset of:
I want to take care of someone (nurturing instinct, remember)?
while the predatory female does not care about making the Man happy- the predatory female just wants to make her life better (gold diggers are perfect example for that)

as for more insights and answers, I shall call the more experienced guys (Kidd and Grinus)


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:59 pm 
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These aren't even questions...they are more like typed 'Will someone please co-sign on my interpretations...PLEASE?' statements. Not my arena. :geek:

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:06 pm 
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I see. So, why don't you give me more insight on how this is 'co-sign' my interpretation? But, I'm going to guess your either going to say 'find out for yourself' or not respond :)


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:56 pm 
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about this:
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Why do people want to have their own kids; could that be an ego trait?

in a way: Yes...

but in general: it's a more dominant trait in a woman than in Men.

Esther talks about it in her second book or her first one (I don't remember which one...)

Women say they 'love children' but most women are not willing to adopt children who don't have a home and a good life waiting for them (like in Africa, Cambodia and other places...)

Men (generally speaking of course) can love a child like it was their own even if they didn't produce it.

when you think about it:

a family can have three kids and most families can produce two and have another one adopted.
yet, most families are not doing it: they produce all three kids by themselves Or just have two kids (which they produce) so they have more money to buy stuff (often stuff they don't really need...)

a family who is living in modesty can have three-four kids and still live a good life-
that's how it used to be in the 50's and 60's

until people became greedy and wanted to buy more stuff - and thus:
they produce less children to keep a high level lifestyle

notice that I'm talking about families who have average income and above not poor families.

Also, I don't often see rich families make more than three kids these days which is kind of odd

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So, are we trophies that they put up on the wall?

The funny thing is if that is true some men do the same: trophy wife's. :lol:
It is far from funny. Far far...

"Look what I caught and managed to land"

It is no different from comparing their clothes or jewellery.

It may be power, status, money or another attribute which he has to offer.. She is showing off her latest acquisition.. Like a fisherman they are comparing their fish, who has bigger or better wins.

Does the fisherman care for the fish? or will he throw it back without a second thought if a bigger/nicer/tastier one comes along...

And yes, you are a trophy, now you have to work out why and how...

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:35 am 
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in regards to what Grinus said, maybe you remember from 'the manipulated man':
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If a woman leaves the university with an engagement ring on her finger, she has earned her degree
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If she breaks off her studies and marries a university lecturer, she has achieved the same level as he has without exerting herself. As the wife of a factory owner she is treated with greater respect than he is (and not as somebody who at best would be employable on the assembly line in the
same factory).

As a wife she always has the same standard of living and social prestige and has to do nothing to maintain them - as he does. For this reason the quickest way to succeed is always to marry a successful man. She does not win him by her industry, ambition, or perseverance, but simply through an attractive appearance...
edit: I heard of CEOs who married their secretary because she was attractive.

Nicolas Cage (the actor) married Alice Kim - an attractive waitress. She didn't win him over by her 'social status or career value'...

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peregrinus wrote:
And yes, you are a trophy, now you have to work out why and how...
Before this place and a wider perception I was eager to put some extra muscles on me for the ladies. Now, I could care less. Girls will desire my frame and my sexy hair on my chest 8-) :lol: .

@Sniper

Divorce rates are much higher than the 50's and 60's that is another factor to the limited children in a household. Plus, back then most all of the mainstream norm was 'a happy household w/ 2 or 3 kids'. It seems like now the mainstream norm now is a tad different...'little 16yr old stars with their chacha's out for teens to see'
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

For a guy I understand though, as in Nicolas Cage (he doesn't seem to be the brightest guy either with his money troubles), where drawn to looks at first, then we look for other attributes (personality, $$$, whatver). The guys here with more exp have said, I remember Kidd saying it, but don't know who else, they shag now and look for more than just a good looking girl. That cracks me up & awesome! :lol:


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