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Author:  Sniper [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:09 pm ]
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I just watched this movie. Besides being a great action movie it also shows the ugly truth about Thailand. You won't find any Palmys there.

here is the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyPg2QSDamU

I loved the action but that movie made me sad too.

Author:  Alchemist [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:57 pm ]
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But we will hopefully find Sniper letting that shit go!! :mrgreen:

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:07 am ]
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Alchemist wrote:
But we will hopefully find Sniper letting that shit go!! :mrgreen:
it's a great action movie I didn't watch it because of Thai women.

Author:  Alchemist [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:47 am ]
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I was reffering to this:
Sniper wrote:
You won't find any Palmys there.

Author:  Seek [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:54 am ]
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Quote:
Besides being a great action movie it also shows the ugly truth about Thailand.
Ummmm..............It's a movie. :roll:

Does Kiss Of The Dragon show the ugly truth of France?

Does Twin Peaks and Eyes Wide Shut show the ugly truth of the USA?

What about the vast majority of Thai women who aren't drug users and have normal jobs?

The irony is that my current girlfriend is half dutch and she spent part of her childhood in Amsterdam.

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:39 am ]
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Seek wrote:
Quote:
Besides being a great action movie it also shows the ugly truth about Thailand.
Ummmm..............It's a movie. :roll:

Does Kiss Of The Dragon show the ugly truth of France?

Does Twin Peaks and Eyes Wide Shut show the ugly truth of the USA?

What about the vast majority of Thai women who aren't drug users and have normal jobs?

The irony is that my current girlfriend is half dutch and she spent part of her childhood in Amsterdam.
:arrow: :|

the prostitution in France is not nearly as bad as it is in Thailand. In France it's illegal to sell young girls to prostitution and the police and law system is working very well against that. In Thailand the police and law system know that young girls are sold to prostitution and nothing is done.

Also, the poverty in France is not nearly as bad as it is in Thailand. The poor people in France can still live decently and don't have to sell their girls to prostitution...

Author:  Seek [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:02 pm ]
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Prostitution is illegal in Thailand although it is somewhat tolerated.

From Wikipedia:

"A 2004 estimate by Dr. Nitet Tinnakul from Chulalongkorn University gives a total of 2.8 million sex workers, including 2 million women, 20,000 adult males and 800,000 minors under the age of 18"

The total number of people in Thailand is over 63 million so that means that the vast majority of the population is not involved in prostitution.

The movie does not represent the whole of Thailand anymore then the movie Trainspotting is a full representation of Scotland. I have being to Thailand twice and have never met or saw any prostitutes while I was there. It's easy to avoid if you want to. There are plenty of nice women there working normal jobs and who are financially independent. Not that I was seeking women out, I was in a relationship at the time.

I hate the idea of anyone being forced into prostitution and certainly sex trafficking needs to be stopped. I think it's good to be aware of issues so that things can be done.

However I have seen a beautiful side of Thailand where people are generally open, warm and caring. Of course I'm not going to assume that every woman in Thailand is like Palmy, or like my ex, that would be silly but I prefer to focus my energies on what I want in life.

Also from Wikipedia:
"Child sex tourism is a serious problem in the country. Thailand, along with Cambodia, India, Brazil and Mexico has been identified as a leading hotspots of child sexual exploitation."

As you can see there are a number of other countries that have poverty issues as well as problems with Child Prostitution. But does child prostitution represent the whole truth of India, Brazil or Mexico? No. There are plenty of Brazilian, Mexican, Thai and Indian women who are over 18 and financially independent. Also Thailand, India, Brazil, Mexico and Cambodia to all have rich cultures that have nothing to do with prostitution or exploiting children. I think that making out that the movie represents Thailand is blowing things way out of proportion.

And as for finding Palmy's there, I met plenty while I was there but obviously didn't pursue anything being in a relationship and all. I meet plenty of Palmy's here to. Some Thai, some Japanese, some european (Belgium, Poland, Ireland, Czech republic), my current girlfriend who is half european and half african.

I used to go to San Francisco on a regular basis to meet women and a I met a lot of Palmy's there to.

So I think there is another side of Thailand that is beautiful and I prefer to focus on that.

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:28 pm ]
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Seek wrote:
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand although it is somewhat tolerated.

From Wikipedia:

"A 2004 estimate by Dr. Nitet Tinnakul from Chulalongkorn University gives a total of 2.8 million sex workers, including 2 million women, 20,000 adult males and 800,000 minors under the age of 18"

The total number of people in Thailand is over 63 million so that means that the vast majority of the population is not involved in prostitution.

The movie does not represent the whole of Thailand anymore then the movie Trainspotting is a full representation of Scotland. I have being to Thailand twice and have never met or saw any prostitutes while I was there. It's easy to avoid if you want to. There are plenty of nice women there working normal jobs and who are financially independent. Not that I was seeking women out, I was in a relationship at the time.

I hate the idea of anyone being forced into prostitution and certainly sex trafficking needs to be stopped. I think it's good to be aware of issues so that things can be done.

However I have seen a beautiful side of Thailand where people are generally open, warm and caring. Of course I'm not going to assume that every woman in Thailand is like Palmy, or like my ex, that would be silly but I prefer to focus my energies on what I want in life.

Also from Wikipedia:
"Child sex tourism is a serious problem in the country. Thailand, along with Cambodia, India, Brazil and Mexico has been identified as a leading hotspots of child sexual exploitation."

As you can see there are a number of other countries that have poverty issues as well as problems with Child Prostitution. But does child prostitution represent the whole truth of India, Brazil or Mexico? No. There are plenty of Brazilian, Mexican, Thai and Indian women who are over 18 and financially independent. Also Thailand, India, Brazil, Mexico and Cambodia to all have rich cultures that have nothing to do with prostitution or exploiting children. I think that making out that the movie represents Thailand is blowing things way out of proportion.

And as for finding Palmy's there, I met plenty while I was there but obviously didn't pursue anything being in a relationship and all. I meet plenty of Palmy's here to. Some Thai, some Japanese, some european (Belgium, Poland, Ireland, Czech republic), my current girlfriend who is half european and half african.

I used to go to San Francisco on a regular basis to meet women and a I met a lot of Palmy's there to.

So I think there is another side of Thailand that is beautiful and I prefer to focus on that.
Ok but where did you see me say that the movie represents all of Thailand?
I never said that all or Most Thai women are prostitutes...

I have also met people who are generally open, warm and caring in Thailand and I also met some nice women who have good jobs. I just pointed out that there is also a dark side to Thailand that most people are not aware of...

Author:  Alchemist [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:28 pm ]
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The point is (whether you accept this or not) part of you is still on that 'crusade against Rion' shit, using these types of movies as an example of what his illusion isn't. :p

That sentence I quoted was revealing enough.

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:31 pm ]
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Alchemist wrote:
The point is (whether you accept this or not) part of you is still on that 'crusade against Rion' shit, using these types of movies as an example of what his illusion isn't. :p

That sentence I quoted was revealing enough.
Ok note taken. I didn't even realize it until now that you pointed it out ;)

Author:  rant [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:33 pm ]
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this place is in mute mode

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:20 pm ]
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We talking about Thailand again? :mrgreen:
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Author:  Dali [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:18 pm ]
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The only cool thing I know about Thailand is this bad ass fighter... 8-)

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Author:  Seek [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:51 am ]
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Quote:
Ok but where did you see me say that the movie represents all of Thailand?
I never said that all or Most Thai women are prostitutes...

I have also met people who are generally open, warm and caring in Thailand and I also met some nice women who have good jobs. I just pointed out that there is also a dark side to Thailand that most people are not aware of...
You said: "it also shows the ugly truth about Thailand. You won't find any Palmys there."

This above sentence sounded like that's what you meant when I first read it but if I read it wrong or you meant differently then ok.

Author:  Sniper [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:52 pm ]
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Seek wrote:
Quote:
Ok but where did you see me say that the movie represents all of Thailand?
I never said that all or Most Thai women are prostitutes...

I have also met people who are generally open, warm and caring in Thailand and I also met some nice women who have good jobs. I just pointed out that there is also a dark side to Thailand that most people are not aware of...
You said: "it also shows the ugly truth about Thailand. You won't find any Palmys there."

This above sentence sounded like that's what you meant when I first read it but if I read it wrong or you meant differently then ok.
maybe I didn't explain myself properly :geek:

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:07 pm ]
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