Ok, first of all, non-verbal seeds and verbal seeds are a bit different. Same underlying principle, but different applications.
So with the farmers market girl, I never verbally planted any seeds. It was all communicated with body language and physical actions. If you listened to all the little conversations I had with her, they were always pretty mundane. Basically I was occupying her brain with this rather bland conversation while I was using my body to communicate directly to her body.
One thing about seeds is that you want to communicate your openness to getting together with a girl using less communication rather than more. You obviously want to make sure she gets the message, but preferably you want to do it subtly. If she doesn't get your subtle communication, then you get keep getting a little more overt and a little bit more, and a little more, until she "gets it." You should be able to tell when a girl "gets it," even if its still on the unconscious level. Like if you were to stop time and interview her, she might say, "There's just this feeling I get with Slim that I can't quite totally put my finger on."
In some ways, it's easier to plant seeds using body language because you have a little more leeway - you can actually be more overt and direct with body language, whereas with words there's a finer line that if you cross it, it becomes uncouth. If you're giving a girl all the non-verbal communication you can muster and she's still not getting it, then you need to move to dropping verbal hints. But again, dance around it first, be indirect.
I might say, "I'm free on x day," without provocation to get in her mind that we should me up.
Yeah, might work, kinda depends on how you say it I guess. Also, you're kinda jumping straight to scheduling. Maybe first just insinuate getting together. Something like, "oh, you're into jazz? I love going to jazz shows..." See how she takes it, maybe she'll suggest that you go listen to some jazz together. Then you can move to scheduling.
Or with the accelerant girl J, I planted a verbal seed over FB. Here's how it happened; J moved to my city, and moved in with my friend (we'll call her "C", the one I met J through). Within a week, J and C moved into a new place. C posted a pic of J on FB holding up some cleaning products in one hand and a beer in the other with the caption, "cleaning the bathroom in my old place so we can move into our new place!" So, I saw this pic, and commented, "Does J want to come over and clean my bathroom?" J commented back, "I'll stop at your house next Meraki! I'm expensive though!" I responded: "How much is expensive? One bottle of beer? Two?" She commented, "Two and a half." Then I responded: "Done. You can even have the extra half and make it an even three..."
Then the conversation moved to private messages, and later when she asked me out on the date, she directly addressed the bathroom cleaning, saying "so if I come pick you up, should I build in some time to clean your bathroom before we head out?"
I didn't make her clean my bathroom, although now I kinda wish I had.
I don't know what I would say to plant a seed for sex.
Too specific. Planting seeds is all about subtly communicating that you are into it, and if she's into it, then you would be down to get it on.
Once you are already hooking up with a woman on a regular basis, I suppose you could plant more specific seeds, like subtly communicating to her that you love blowjobs or something like that. There's all sorts of ways you could do this.
Maybe she hadn't gone through any steps in her mind and was just being friendly.
Irrelevant whether she had consciously gone through it in her mind or not. I noticed all the unconscious signals she was giving me like pupils dilated, open body language, hair standing up on her arms, duration of eye contact, etc, which all showed that she was into me. If she consciously knew it or not, it doesn't really matter. Eventually she would go from unconscious to conscious (assuming she doesn't stop choosing me for some reason), and it will probably happen faster if I plant some seeds, but maybe not.
I'm making a logical leap somewhere in here. I what I think are the right conclusions, but something is still missing in the first case.
Here's as straightforward as I can explain it. I see girl, and I decide that she's cute and from what I know about her she's qualified. I interact with her in a very cordial, friendly way, and while I'm doing that I observe girl, and I see that she is giving me unconscious or semi-conscious signals that she is into me ("jocking on the subtle tip"). I stack sufficient evidence. When she's out in front of her booth, I take the opportunity to inject a little sensual sexuality into our interaction just for a moment. I see she responds to it nicely (pupils, hair, eye contact, unable to speak for a moment), so I assume that my message has been received, and I let her marinate on it for a while. Our interactions escalate (she gives me gifts, touches me more often, I mirror her level of touch, etc). Eventually she brings up the idea of us doing something together, and we make it happen.
Do you still feel like you're missing something?
She reminds me of this girl at my school that's a freshman. She has guys up her ass chasing her and she always makes it a point to say hi to me. I wrote about her earlier. The space and time gap seem to have erased any perceptions of staunchness about me in her mind. She sees that I'm unattached. Yet, she doesn't do a damn thing. So, there is no way tell where her head is at because I lack information. I've only reciprocated.
I don't remember what you wrote about this girl, but from what you wrote here it sounds to me like your message of being open to something happening with her hasn't been fully received. Or it was a mixed message and was muddled by your former staunchness. I would take the next reasonable opportunity to inject a little bit of unconscious communication into your interaction. Do something subtle and non-verbal but yet clear to indicate that you like the girl and are open to hooking up with her.
In the second case, the woman is clearly interested in you and just wants to think that you'll put in some work. My guess is that she doesn't want to feel like a total slut. However, that justification is making me think I still have some PUA garbage stuck in my brain. Women don't really care about that.
Yeah, I don't think thats it. I don't think she cares about "being a slut." And I don't think it was about wanting me to "put in some work." It was just her being super nervous and unable to make the move. Like did you ever have the experience of wanting to do something but being paralyzed? Like maybe jumping off a high diving board or a rock into a lake or something like that? Where you're looking down, and you know you want to jump and you know you'll be fine, but you're just paralyzed and you can't do it. And then maybe somebody else comes along and tells you to jump on the count of 3 and they count for you and you are able to do it. I think thats where she was.
So, the difference is that the woman needs to think that she is yours with accelerant.
With a seed the woman is thinking it is a possibility after you give her information.
Sounds pretty correct.