Natural Freedom

I was at a bar last weekend. The past months I have been really starting to believe the front women have been putting on me.

This night for the first 80% was no exception. I was with some friends and we were hanging out shooting the shit. Was pretty indifferent, there was one girl that kept suspiciously turning up in my vincinity. But I waited too long and she ended up leaving.

There was another girl that was giving off subtle signs but turned me down when I started to talk to her and then the last situation there was another one who was kinda in the vicinity there was the tiniest flicker in her eyes but that was it. I wasn't that interested in her so I didn't give it a second thought.

About two minutes later she started talking to me, invited herself back to my place and blew off her friends.

So like I notice those really small subtle body language hints all the time. Like how likely is it that there are a lot of women that feel that level of attraction but just deny it?

Basic question but I'm interested to get your opinion

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

I know this is a question for The Kidd!! but in my opinion it sounds like they are trying to sort the programming in their head. I think a lot of low self esteem women would deny themselves this experience because of the many fucked up variables and excuses they make to convince themselves why or why not this situation should happen.

But this would also go back to environment as well that is a key factor. But that is just my analysis lets see what the big homie has to say. @Kidd didn't mean to intervene in this one but I wanted to see if I'm getting any better at this.

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~There's weakness in the hearts of all humans are you afraid to acknowledge yours... ~
Mr. Todo

So did you guys do the horizontal waltz? Did she blow YOU off as well at least? Or did you somehow manage to fuck that up?

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

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Can you see what I see in what you wrote?
There is a good reason I seperated these lines, there is a big subtext here, in my view. What is it?

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In building a statue, a sculptor doesn't keep adding clay to his subject.He keeps chiseling away at the inessentials until the truth of its creation is revealed without obstructions. Perfection is not when there is no more to add,but no more to take away.

*enthusiastically raises his hand while slapping the desk with his other hand and stomping his feet* OOOH! OOOH! OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH!!! I KNOW! I KNOW!

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

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Thanks for believing in me ...and yeah everything went smoothly

peregrinus..is it the obvious answer space?

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

Of course it is! The answer is always space, the only variable with it is how much to give depending on the circumstances.

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

your level of indifference in regards to the last encounter was quite smooooooove

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"I'd rather have no bitch than a half a bitch" Iceberg Slim

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!

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EVERYTHING in life is conditional...EVERYTHING.

Pimposophy Revisited is now finally available on Amazon in all territories!

to answer your question though Mr. Fishburne, I think that if the woman is interested enough, she WILL show signs and if you are adept enough, you WILL notice these signs, so they aren't really good at disguising their interest, if you can pick it up. they probably can fool the average Joe, but once you know what to look for it's like shootin fish in a barrel.

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"I'd rather have no bitch than a half a bitch" Iceberg Slim

The higher value you are in her eyes the more she won't be able to control herself.

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

trufe , even though some will still "ACT" snotty it will just be that, an act. as long as they are reacting TO YOU, you golden. that chick will start melting like wax around heat.

notice when Morpheus doesn't give this chick the bone she changes her actions and comes at him differently.

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"I'd rather have no bitch than a half a bitch" Iceberg Slim

Well, it was true indifference because I slept with her but didn't really care if it happened or not.

But that doesn't change the fact that I still act interested when around women that I do find attractive...I guess I just need to figure out how to translate that level of indifference to all interactions.

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"The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man. Even so, who can know him."

What did it for me was reading Dick Masterson's stuff (The male Esther Vilar) (No offense to Kidd, I learned a SHIT LOAD from him, but not everyone can teach you everything).

When you realize all women are fucking idiots you lose your nervousness around them and attachment to them no matter how hot they are. It's like if you're afraid of public speaking, you'd be pissing your pants to give a speech in front of a University, but not if all the students in the audience were mentally handicapped...because you'd look down on them and wouldn't give a fuck what they think about you, so your anxiety would be gone.

Now when I look at a woman all I notice are her faults and no matter how hot she is I'm a fuck'n rock. But that's just the path that worked for me, to each their own.

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

Very effective reframe, hipnosis, whatever you want to call it. Or Reality

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GMST

No need to reframe, it's universal reality

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The honey doesn't chase the bee.

A wise man once said "I find that a duck's opinion of me is influenced by whether or not I have bread."

Dang, that post is gold!

And this one!
Which is why I don't get offended anymore if I get flaked on. When you see the reason they have flaked, it's so obvious and nothing to do with us. Not really. It doesn't actually mean they don't rate you, but rather that someone else had something they valued a little more - It could be proximity, a specific career, shared interest and the list goes on. I have begun to genuinely feel that should it happen, then regrets will belong to her and her alone.

For the question, I would say NOT REALLY. In general Women become obvious, predictable and routinary once you observe them more closely, more objectively. Just like any Animal who goes about their daily lives trying to get things. So, I think it's always obvious when they're uninterested, and vica versa, no matter how they choose to disguise it.

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All is more simple than you make it.