What specific examples of "hurting someone" that you could never do are you referring to? What stance do you interpret as "hurting someone"? That term is your projection and will reveal a lot about yourself to you.

Being unattached or not tolerating things has nothing to do with 'hurting' - hurting = taking specific actions with no intention other than to do harm. There are many sections I have not read but highly doubt anyone encourages active revenge or going and punching someone in the face, etc.

Doing what is best for yourself or a situation can be very uncomfortable and not what the person wants. Avoiding discomfort/confrontation is a very different animal than 'not hurting.'

You are pleased by helping people- that's a great thing. If helping people is your genuine passion in life, then you already have a lot of insights into your path. Volunteer/charity work.. healing work.. do what you can to help those you deeply need your help for the sheer joy and satisfaction it gives you.

If you on the other hand are talking mostly about doing "nice things" for women, primarily women you are attracted to (or your family who you 'get' a lot out of having good relationships with), then don't kid yourself. This is adopting moral superiority as a form of resistance. I have no idea if this is the case for you or not, that you must examine for yourself.

Lots of people seem to show up and tell me I have to have ambitions, to take on the world etc... But I don't really feel the want to do that.

But, my guess to whether an indifferent man fills space would still be: yes, but rarely. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Yeah... Because there are too little examples, too little clear clarifications and we get confused again, again and again...

In my view:


The answer, to your own question, is fine.

It is the question that is flawed.


Space is something that can be experienced at all times regardless of physical, emotional or even sexual proximity.

You can't just suddenly think to yourself "Oooh, look at me, I'm an indifferent man. I think I'm going to go take up some space now". The very thought and the conscious action of it would put the other person off as they will sense your desperation.

The best and probably the only way to take up 'space', without actually taking it up, would be as an expression of yourself and who you are as an individual. This will give her the space to express herself as an individual.

That is the best kind of relationship.....or even an interaction.

Yes. It's a fun game called getting past security

I think your looking at indifference and space as these absolute things you can never break. Adapt the methods to you. Being completely apathetic all the time? That sounds boring as shit .

There's times to give space and take space and to give a fuck
And not give a fuck

Just because you fill space doesn't mean your attached or whatever. Letting that determine your in actions shows your attached.

Fill? no.

Slightly lessen or occupy, yes.

Filling would be a step too far, where is the space for them...

You don't understand because you're approaching it with the wrong mindset. If you keep on thinking about how to "use" space, it will seem confusing as hell.

Thank you Scarf.

I guess i took it too far with the space description. I thought it would make my question clearer, but i don't think it actually did, so just forget about space for now. What i wanted to ask was simply whether an indifferent man initiates something or not, for example contact, and how often in general.

Filling space never "works" in the context of attraction. If you have the right mindset you will naturally create space, but it's good to know what creating space looks like as well in the beginning.

One always fills space and one always creates it (Or is forced to because of the other one filling)...it's a must, like night and day, a balance in nature...you can't jump and then fall up.

This should be a homework assignment, list the ways to create space (While still being on the radar, which is important) with girls, people in general.

There are only two spaces I desire to fill: My stomach, and a female's vagina.

Other than that, who cares about filling or not filling space?

Personally, I take up lots of space by default just because I'm so damn huge.

Other than that, who cares about filling or not filling space?

There are only two spaces I desire to fill: My stomach, and a female's vagina.

But seriously, desiring that second one too strongly is not conducive to creating space...

There are only two spaces I desire to fill: My stomach, and a female's vagina.

Other than that, who cares about filling or not filling space?

Personally, I take up lots of space by default just because I'm so damn huge.