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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:23 pm 
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Hey Kidd,

Alchemist said that even the nice and sweet women will try to manipulate you.

So far I found it to be true because even the nice and sweet women that I know are trying to do some manipulation on their man And my last two girlfriends that were also nice and sweet still tried to do some manipulations on me.

I see it now more than before becasue I keep my eyes open and I'm not so naive anymore.

Does your keeper try to manipulate you?

(I remember that story you posted 'in the name of science'. well that was not a manipulation but more shows that women love your value and not in love with you - for you)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:03 pm 
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The 'science' thread had nothing to do with manipulation...it was about overexposure vs restraint...and overcoming premature ejaculation. ;)

To answer the question...it is human nature to probe for weakness and exploit any said weaknesses. As long as I discern it is not malicious, then as long as I put my foot down when I'm supposed to, it is of little concern.

Remember...when I deal with my girl, I am going against YEARS of environmental programming. It comes with the territory. :ugeek:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:21 pm 
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Remember...when I deal with my girl, I am going against YEARS of environmental programming. It comes with the territory. :ugeek:
about that, don't you get tired or think that it's too much effort sometimes?
or do you feel like it's not hard work?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:30 pm 
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Sniper wrote:
The Kidd!! wrote:
Remember...when I deal with my girl, I am going against YEARS of environmental programming. It comes with the territory. :ugeek:
about that, don't you get tired or think that it's too much effort sometimes?
or do you feel like it's not hard work?
I imagine it's much easier than...say...raising a child. In that respect, it's very similar...I'm merely investing in my future. 8-)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:37 pm 
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The Kidd!! wrote:
I imagine it's much easier than...say...raising a child. In that respect, it's very similar...I'm merely investing in my future. 8-)
But there is no guarantee that she will be your future. I don't mean in the sense that you are not good enough - I mean that no one can know what will happen cause women tend to flip flop a lot (because they are more emotional).

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:41 pm 
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There's no guarantee youre not going to drop dead after you read this either...lighten up a bit. :|

Expect the worst but hope for the best...that's all you can do. :ugeek:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:45 pm 
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Ok man, thanks a lot. Well if I don't live tomarrow at least I finished reading your post :D

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The Kidd!! wrote:


Expect the worst but hope for the best...that's all you can do. :ugeek:
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:40 pm 
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The important thing is not if she tries to manipulate him.

She will try to manipulate him at some point, merely to test his boundaries, see if they are strong and to assess the reaction. She needs to do this in order to feel safe and to get an assessment of who he is as a man.

It is how he responds when it happens, and how she responds to that which is important in my view.

As Kidd says, there are a lot of parallels to raising a child. Also to training an animal. They will test their bounds and your boundaries. They will test your character and if you see through their shit. Also how you react when they do step over the line.

If you do and you handle it in the right way (not by method, just by being the authentic you) then they will know the answer.
They will also learn what they can and cannot get away with.

Letting them manipulate you in some ways is acceptable, however some lines should not be crossed and they should be reminded of this, in a way that is congruent to your character.
Once they are and they can feel your boundaries out and which ones are moveable and which ones are not and you stick to these over time, they will feel safe in who you are = safe.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:26 pm 
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peregrinus wrote:

If you do and you handle it in the right way (not by method, just by being the authentic you) then they will know the answer.
They will also learn what they can and cannot get away with.
Let's say for instance she suddenly reveals information she witheld which contradicts what she's been saying all along or breaks a boundary, if you didn't call her on it in the moment is it too late to do it later? if for some reason you weren't able to think on your feet in the moment.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:33 pm 
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Alchemist wrote:
peregrinus wrote:

If you do and you handle it in the right way (not by method, just by being the authentic you) then they will know the answer.
They will also learn what they can and cannot get away with.
Let's say for instance she suddenly reveals information she witheld which contradicts what she's been saying all along or breaks a boundary, if you didn't call her on it in the moment is it too late to do it later? if for some reason you weren't able to think on your feet in the moment.

Depends. Elaborate on your example. :geek:

...not that it matters much...I'm pretty sure the bitch you are talking about is no keeper. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:58 am 
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peregrinus wrote:
As Kidd says, there are a lot of parallels to raising a child. Also to training an animal. They will test their bounds and your boundaries. They will test your character and if you see through their shit. Also how you react when they do step over the line.
This is huge!

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