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Author:  Sniper [ Wed May 18, 2011 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:  programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
Ok so you had that post in which you told me to check which kind of girls are checking me out. Scarface also wrote:
Quote:
Not sure if what I will say is for you the case.

But it also seems you might have taken on the believe (that is very commonly teached by pua). That either all women find you attractive or no women find you attractive.
That believe/view is an untruth in my opinion, since plenty women like different type of men.

That said.

If "only" lets say 1 in 20 women finds (the way) you look/are (very) attractive, if you would go with all of them it would be more then any man can handle. Thus letting a sample of 3 women get to you, is ridiculous. It's not: either all women, or no women are attracted to you. If "only" lets say 5% of the ("blond") women you meet/see/are in the same space with/etc. are hot for you, you will have plenty for you.
Ok now after thinking about this more I'm ready to admit I have a problem :oops: . I'm wondering if you ever had this problem and what did you do to overcome it....

So my problem is:

I want to feel like almost all women I see want me and I feel bad when it's not the case in reality. Now this problem can be due to Ego and Social Matrix Programing that says to men: that the alpha male is a guy who is wanted by almost all of the women he sees.

did you ever have that problem and if you did: how did you overcome it?

Edit: This might be a stupid analogy but a very attractive woman can go on the street and she will feel and know that almost all men want her (I think that's what she will feel...).

anyway, I used this analogy just to try and make my point, I hope it makes sense...
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Wed May 18, 2011 10:28 pm ]
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No...I was never that damn egotistical to think that every single woman on the planet should want me. I just dealt with the ones that did like me (which like Tony Montana said, was MORE than enough to deal with) and didn't give the ones that did NOT like me A SECOND THOUGHT. :|

You really need to put your delusions of granduer to bed...the sooner, THE BETTER.
Author:  Sniper [ Wed May 18, 2011 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
The Kidd!! wrote:
No...I was never that damn egotistical to think that every single woman on the planet should want me. I just dealt with the ones that did like me (which like Tony Montana said, was MORE than enough to deal with) and didn't give the ones that did NOT like me A SECOND THOUGHT. :|

You really need to put your delusions of granduer to bed...the sooner, THE BETTER.
I didn't say that every single woman on the planet should want me I said:
'I want to feel like almost all women I see want me'

I have to break that pattern of thought and see why I think like this...
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Wed May 18, 2011 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
Oh, you wanna get literal now? :|
Author:  peregrinus [ Wed May 18, 2011 11:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
Sniper wrote:
I didn't say that every single woman on the planet should want me I said: 'I want to feel like almost all women I see want me'
Is there really any difference in these two statements?

If so, please explain it to me, in more than one sentence.
Sniper wrote:
Edit: This might be a stupid analogy but a very attractive woman can go on the street and she will feel and know that almost all men want her (I think that's what she will feel...).
Does this mean you envy them?

You envy them being able to create that effect in men?

It is also false, for every woman I can find men who do not want her. EVERY WOMAN!
Author:  Sniper [ Wed May 18, 2011 11:21 pm ]
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Ok Thank you peregrinus and The Kidd,

looks like I need to dig deep again and see where this is really coming from.
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Wed May 18, 2011 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
That ego has GOT to GO, son! :|
Author:  StephenP [ Thu May 19, 2011 1:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
Sniper, I'm learning that my ego has a long ways to go as well, and this place is chipping away at it pretty quickly.

What I have been doing lately, is considering the following: If I was the other person, how would I be?

There are countless times friends of mine have been completely enamored over a girl at the bar, and I'm just like "Really??"

Would you really want
Quote:
almost all women I see want me
??

Really? Think of all the fatty's, think of all the crazies, think of all the weirdos, think of all the.....

They'd be calling, stalking, texting, following you all the time. Be happy with the 1 in 20 or 50 or 100. Divide that by 3 million and jesus man, even dealing with a tenth of all those that truly do want me would drive me to suicide :shock:
Author:  Resonance [ Thu May 19, 2011 2:39 am ]
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Amazing this might actually be my problem as well, hmm this will take work but well worth it I believe question kidd what are the more subtle signs of attraction you look for when interacting with women.

The most I get when talking with them is a smile and maybe some laughs but that could mean anything or worse nothing at all I want to catch them as much as possible.
Author:  Dali [ Thu May 19, 2011 4:08 am ]
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Way of a Natural wrote:
Amazing this might actually be my problem as well, hmm this will take work but well worth it I believe question kidd what are the more subtle signs of attraction you look for when interacting with women.

The most I get when talking with them is a smile and maybe some laughs but that could mean anything or worse nothing at all I want to catch them as much as possible.
Yeah for me it's confusing too, maybe they're being nice and friendly towards me and sometimes I confuse this with attraction and, adding this to the baggage I carry form pua-dom. Right know most of the framework I try to do is observing her reactions, but I dont desire none chick, this is weird like this have dissapeared, maybe is a form of protecting me a form of fear I create in my head.

Like I just don't give a shit if they're checking me out, if they are hot or not, if they have big boobs. Like I got tired and deceptionated with myself. I don't take account of this because my failed attempts, but yet working on that frame of confirmation through observation of her reactions towards me, more like of desireless, maybe it's the time to make experiments.

Plus some days when the girls approached me, I felt an ego boost feeling superior, but lasted so little, because then when I state my interest to them, you know; make subtle remarks yet clear with my intentions, the ones I desire went away, stange way to operate, maybe I just have to let go of all this.

Or do a lot of experiments. :D
:lol:
Author:  scarface [ Thu May 19, 2011 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
Sniper wrote:
I'm wondering if you ever had this problem and what did you do to overcome it....

So my problem is:
I want to feel like almost all women I see want me and I feel bad when it's not the case in reality.
I got sucked into that idea, because back when I started listening to pua's. And most pua's back then said, like David Deangelo and the other ones, things to the extend off (if I recall correctly):
"2% (or something like that) of men, fuck 90% (or something like that) of the women" &
"I can get any women I want, (because I now how to trigger their attraction swithes which are the same in all women)"
"Women are not that diffirent, they all feel attraction for the same things/men"

From quotes like this from pua's, I came to the conclusion that either allmost all women are attracted to you/a man. Or almost no or no women are attracted to you.
Thus if I came in contact with lets say 5 women, and non showed in some way that they would find me attractive, I automatically assumed 99.9% of women would then not feel attracted to me.

How I got over it?
I realized it was bullshit these pua's had stated. After saw it was bs, I was cured immedeately (didn't need to work on it to lose the idea).

By the way. That Rion guy also stated things like. Do natural grounding and almost all women will feel attracted to you. Which also is an all or nothing, type of attitude i.m.o..
Author:  Sniper [ Thu May 19, 2011 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
scarface wrote:
Sniper wrote:
I'm wondering if you ever had this problem and what did you do to overcome it....

So my problem is:
I want to feel like almost all women I see want me and I feel bad when it's not the case in reality.
I got sucked into that idea, because back when I started listening to pua's. And most pua's back then said, like David Deangelo and the other ones, things to the extend off (if I recall correctly):
"2% (or something like that) of men, fuck 90% (or something like that) of the women" &
"I can get any women I want, (because I now how to trigger their attraction swithes which are the same in all women)"
"Women are not that diffirent, they all feel attraction for the same things/men"

From quotes like this from pua's, I came to the conclusion that either allmost all women are attracted to you/a man. Or almost no or no women are attracted to you.
Thus if I came in contact with lets say 5 women, and non showed in some way that they would find me attractive, I automatically assumed 99.9% of women would then not feel attracted to me.

How I got over it?
I realized it was bullshit these pua's had stated. After saw it was bs, I was cured immedeately (didn't need to work on it to lose the idea).

By the way. That Rion guy also stated things like. Do natural grounding and almost all women will feel attracted to you. Which also is an all or nothing, type of attitude i.m.o..
scarface, you hit the nail on the head (you are so right :) )...
it's that PUA bullshit mindset + past rejections that got me into the 'all or nothing' paradigm.

Now that I know where it came from I can let it go....

Thanks everyone 8-)
Author:  Azriel [ Thu May 19, 2011 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
scarface wrote:
Sniper wrote:
I'm wondering if you ever had this problem and what did you do to overcome it....

So my problem is:
I want to feel like almost all women I see want me and I feel bad when it's not the case in reality.
I got sucked into that idea, because back when I started listening to pua's. And most pua's back then said, like David Deangelo and the other ones, things to the extend off (if I recall correctly):
"2% (or something like that) of men, fuck 90% (or something like that) of the women" &
"I can get any women I want, (because I now how to trigger their attraction swithes which are the same in all women)"
"Women are not that diffirent, they all feel attraction for the same things/men"

From quotes like this from pua's, I came to the conclusion that either allmost all women are attracted to you/a man. Or almost no or no women are attracted to you.
Thus if I came in contact with lets say 5 women, and non showed in some way that they would find me attractive, I automatically assumed 99.9% of women would then not feel attracted to me.

How I got over it?
I realized it was bullshit these pua's had stated. After saw it was bs, I was cured immedeately (didn't need to work on it to lose the idea).

By the way. That Rion guy also stated things like. Do natural grounding and almost all women will feel attracted to you. Which also is an all or nothing, type of attitude i.m.o..
This is the second time one of your posts made me more aware of limiting beliefs I have! Thank you!
Author:  The Kidd!! [ Thu May 19, 2011 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
Quote:
scarface, you hit the nail on the head (you are so right )...
it's that PUA bullshit mindset + past rejections that got me into the 'all or nothing' paradigm.

Now that I know where it came from I can let it go....

Thanks everyone
Pardon my skepticism...but I'll believe when I no longer see it in your posts. :geek:
Author:  scarface [ Fri May 20, 2011 7:38 pm ]
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Sniper wrote:
(you are so right :) )...
Quote:
This is the second time one of your posts made me more aware of limiting beliefs I have! Thank you!
What is this? Opperation Appreciation? I Like!
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Author:  Jared [ Sun May 22, 2011 1:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
The Kidd!! wrote:
That ego has GOT to GO, son! :|
:lol: :lol:
Author:  Jared [ Sun May 22, 2011 3:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: programing and ego- did you ever have this problem?
It´s good to have an ego. Just keep it
as a great tool.

Logic too is a tool, but logic or emotion cannot
experience its own emotion-ness or logic-ness.
Every experience is experienced in the Consciousness
itself.
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