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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:03 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:07 pm 
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Interesting video, thanks for posting Jared :)

I did notice how much he fidgets around, lots of self touching involved. He did not look a comfortable presenter to me, especially in the bit up to 5mins or so.

Would be interested in hearing others views on this.

I do like the way he points towards the cause rather than the symptom. Not totally agree with him, but its better than a lot of explanations I've heard.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:51 pm 
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good video, i have to think more about it, becasue i'm feeling some apaty about sex, i mean after it ends it's like, is this all?, i mean i tryied to be good with women and that, for this?

i'm swiming beetwen being happy and being bored about women, it's confusing


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:45 am 
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This video very insightful its definitely making me think,

How can I be free because honestly that's what I want I still like women but now honestly I just don't know anymore.....

I'm no longer angry with them, on some level everybody feels like they deserve the best right......

All I want to do is get handled and move on in my life where it can be consistent that's all according to the video I'm at a frustrated level right now.....

I'm always worried about the next day if if you want to know what suffering is this is definitely one form of it mental if it probably wasn't for having good friends I don't know what I do

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Way of a Natural wrote:

How can I be free because honestly that's what I want I still like women but now honestly I just don't know anymore.....

Almost every human problem can be resolved
by returning to values. It´s the most
important thing, to clarify your values, and then
live congruently to these values.

Values> Beliefs> Expectations> Attitude> Actions

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:20 pm 
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you'r rigth jared your words make think about myself, i get bored and feel apaty when i give up to my own values becasue i doubt too much and becasue i'm surrounded by people that allways try to make me change and make me think different, but it's ok i'm taking the hard road


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:21 pm 
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Jared wrote:
Almost every human problem can be resolved
by returning to values. It´s the most
important thing, to clarify your values, and then
live congruently to these values.
Wise words Jared :)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:04 pm 
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peregrinus wrote:
Jared wrote:
Almost every human problem can be resolved
by returning to values. It´s the most
important thing, to clarify your values, and then
live congruently to these values.
Wise words Jared :)
Very wise words INDEED. :ugeek:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:10 am 
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Jared wrote:
Way of a Natural wrote:

How can I be free because honestly that's what I want I still like women but now honestly I just don't know anymore.....

Almost every human problem can be resolved
by returning to values. It´s the most
important thing, to clarify your values, and then
live congruently to these values.

Values> Beliefs> Expectations> Attitude> Actions



Thank you Jared I've already started feeling better now since doing this........

For as long as I have seen you around, this has actually the best thing you've said to me that has made any sense to me so I putting all the advice together I gathered here thus far and applying it I am taking a hiatus from the forum and get back to you guys with my progress

To all that has helped me in my trying situation thank you I should see you guys later on this year in better spirits take care

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:23 pm 
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Thanks,

I do read a lot, a skill/habit anyone can learn.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:05 am 
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Levels of Consciousness;

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/0 ... ciousness/

According to research in D.Hawkins book Power vs. Force,
these Energy levels calibrate as follows; (w/kinesiology, test)

Shame 20
Guilt 30
Apathy 50
Grief 75
Fear 100
Desire 125
Anger 150
Pride 175
Courage 200
Neutrality 250
Willingness 310
Acceptance 350
Reason 400
Love 500
Joy 540
Peace 600
Enlightenment 700-1000

Some notes from the book;

+Average level of human consciousness is today 207.
+It takes a lifetime for most people to raise 5 points.
+85% of people live below 200, a point where Force transforms
into Power.
+Mother Teresa 700, Albert Einstein 499, Buddha 1000,
+Hardest transformation is from Reason to Love (unconditional)
+Mankind lacks the capacity to know the difference between truth
and falsehood.
+Man lacks the power to stop the effect of negative fields.
+The major limitation of consciousness is its innocence; it believes
everything it hears.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 pm 
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Jared wrote:
Levels of Consciousness;

Shame 20
Guilt 30
Apathy 50
Grief 75
Fear 100
Desire 125
Anger 150
Pride 175
Courage 200
Neutrality 250
Willingness 310
Acceptance 350
Reason 400
Love 500
Joy 540
Peace 600
Enlightenment 700-1000
Good list imo. I can see how each energy level is more powerfull then the one below it. I like to see how many people in Arabic countries seem to have gone/raised from a place of apathy and fear (for their dictators) to a place of desire/anger and/or courage.

Looking at, I would say/think I most of my time spend in 600 Peace, and some time in 700.

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scarface wrote:

Looking at, I would say/think I most of my time spend in 600 Peace, and some time in 700.
There are 12 people on the planet right now who are at 700.

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Jared wrote:
scarface wrote:

Looking at, I would say/think I most of my time spend in 600 Peace, and some time in 700.
There are 12 people on the planet right now who are at 700.
Wow. :idea: Well now I could go off feel all special and have a big ego trip out of it.
But the sad fact is, that I don't see anyone that I can address this too. What a bummer.

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interesting list it's like the powerlevel in DBZ :lol:


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Desperate Housewives: 63 (Apathy)
Passion of the Christ: 98 (Fear)
Shrek 2: 124 (Desire)

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Jared wrote:
Desperate Housewives: 63 (Apathy)
Passion of the Christ: 98 (Fear)
Shrek 2: 124 (Desire)
what movies do you consider that have a high level?


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The Big Blue, (a French film) 700,
it was mentioned in the book, I would
like to see it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:40 am 
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Hawkins writes about sexuality in his book "Healing and Recovery";

"...man´s conflict about sexuality is consequent to the
Energy field of his position about the subject, how it is
perceived, and what it means. Problems are best solved
not on the same level where they appear to occur, but
on the next level above them."

"At the higher level, the problems automatically resolve
themselves because of that shif in point of view, or one
might see there was no problem at all."

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I read an article about this on Steve Pavlina's blog, here : http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/0 ... ciousness/

I see myself somewhere inbetween neutrality, willingness and acceptance - But lately I'm very much uncounsciously working on developing the Reason part. Have no clear idea where it will take me, we will see
What about you guys ?


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