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| Author: | Meraki [ Thu May 23, 2013 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Fear causes desire, desire causes fear |
I was watching this video (which I highly recommend): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWGnV4eF ... 9167481C0B He mentions fear and desire, and what is means to be free from them. It made me think - if you hold onto a desire, it naturally causes fear. Fear that you will not get what you desire, or that it will not be satisfying when you do get it. If you hold onto fear, then it naturally causes desire - desire to be rid of or avoid whatever it is you fear. I have heard much talk about releasing desires, detachment from desire, suffering being caused by desire, and I am sure may men here have spent time contemplating their desires and their attachments to them. I have heard less about releasing fears, detachment from fear, suffering being caused by fear, and it might prove fertile ground to examine fears that you have or hold onto. |
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| Author: | ahk [ Thu May 23, 2013 7:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fear causes desire, desire causes fear |
All fears seem to be rooted in a fear of death, and all desires seem to follow from a desire to live (procreation is a form of seeking immortality). If you see life as purposeless in general, living just for the experience (no matter if it is good or bad or just boring), both the fear and the desire go down. I recommend Ernest Becker's book The Denial of Death (just the foreword of the book alone was powerful enough for me). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denial_of_Death http://www.ernestbecker.org/about/getting-started |
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| Author: | Flow83 [ Thu May 23, 2013 8:27 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Fear causes desire, desire causes fear | |
All fears seem to be rooted in a fear of death, and all desires seem to follow from a desire to live (procreation is a form of seeking immortality).
YES - the inherent purposelessness of life is totally liberating.
If you see life as purposeless in general, living just for the experience (no matter if it is good or bad or just boring), both the fear and the desire go down. I recommend Ernest Becker's book The Denial of Death (just the foreword of the book alone was powerful enough for me). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denial_of_Death http://www.ernestbecker.org/about/getting-started |
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| Author: | TheDude [ Sat May 25, 2013 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fear causes desire, desire causes fear |
Well said ahk. I remember when I realized life was/is purposelessness it was depressing moment for my ego. |
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| Author: | Flow83 [ Sat May 25, 2013 8:53 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Fear causes desire, desire causes fear | |
Well said ahk.
Having no inherent purpose does not necessarily mean no purpose. I remember when I realized life was/is purposelessness it was depressing moment for my ego. Does each moment and action you take have an inherent meaning, or is the purpose/meaning dependent on YOU? How much of our lives is spent looking for some external person, philosophy, thing to tell us what the 'true' meaning of something is? |
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| Author: | Jared [ Mon May 27, 2013 2:59 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Fear causes desire, desire causes fear | ||
All fears seem to be rooted in a fear of death, and all desires seem to follow from a desire to live (procreation is a form of seeking immortality).
YES - the inherent purposelessness of life is totally liberating.If you see life as purposeless in general, living just for the experience (no matter if it is good or bad or just boring), both the fear and the desire go down. I recommend Ernest Becker's book The Denial of Death (just the foreword of the book alone was powerful enough for me). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denial_of_Death http://www.ernestbecker.org/about/getting-started "then there´s no entertainment or juice, and I´ll be bored; I have to shut up." <--- Ultimate Enemy of the ego |
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