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Author:  Star_Above [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:04 pm ]
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Something that blew this shit wide open for me was learning, or unlearning rather....that trying to create rapport and commonalities with girls does not create attraction (I use to do this)! Keep the frame that you are the prize, you make her jump through hoops and qualify herself always....and when you're with her you never give all of yourself to her, you're aloof and not that intrested at all. Guys she has rapport with go in the friend zone, read me? She only has girl talk and closeness with guys she won't let fuck her.

Author:  fufe [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:39 pm ]
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Oh well. ManniJa I know you are much more experienced that I am but I want to write few words on this anyways..

Rapport itself may not create attraction, but it may show values, which could be hidden without rapport. And those values may create attraction, if that's what she needs..
What paid off for me personally was not trying to make rapport or anything, just giving space.. Resulted into creating what we could call rapport, but I didn't really care about it.

I know you are practically right, but I just don't want some guys to take it literally to the extreme as I did.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:08 pm ]
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Eh, that's a good rule of thumb for guys new to this mindset shift I guess, but if you're doing it right, you're not TRYING to create ANYTHING...it all just kinda flows. 8-)

Author:  Star_Above [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:07 pm ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
Eh, that's a good rule of thumb for guys new to this mindset shift I guess, but if you're doing it right, you're not TRYING to create ANYTHING...it all just kinda flows. 8-)
That's why I said for the new guys :x 2 smokes!

Fufe, a girl is always looking for something better, a guy with more value...if she "has you" then she'll stay with you until a better option comes along, if she "doesn't have you", then you are always the best option...get me? And this is just a form of giving space really, lot's of space!

Author:  fufe [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:24 pm ]
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ManniJa wrote:
Fufe, a girl is always looking for something better, a guy with more value...if she "has you" then she'll stay with you until a better option comes along, if she "doesn't have you", then you are always the best option...get me? And this is just a form of giving space really, lot's of space!
I'm doing the same as her, then.. You don't ?

I get the "don't have you" concept tho..

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:38 pm ]
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Damn....*hands over two smokes* :cry:

Author:  Sniper [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:30 am ]
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ManniJa wrote:
Fufe, a girl is always looking for something better, a guy with more value...if she "has you" then she'll stay with you until a better option comes along, if she "doesn't have you", then you are always the best option...get me? And this is just a form of giving space really, lot's of space!
when you say "if she doesn't have you"- do you mean that:
A. you are indifferent
and
B. she wants you more than you want her?

or did you mean something else?

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:36 am ]
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Sniper wrote:
ManniJa wrote:
Fufe, a girl is always looking for something better, a guy with more value...if she "has you" then she'll stay with you until a better option comes along, if she "doesn't have you", then you are always the best option...get me? And this is just a form of giving space really, lot's of space!
when you say "if she doesn't have you"- do you mean that:
A. you are indifferent
and
B. she wants you more than you want her?

or did you mean something else?
What does your gut tell you? :|

It's time for you to start answering most of these questions on your own. :ugeek:

Author:  Sniper [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:57 am ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
It's time for you to start answering most of these questions on your own. :ugeek:
Yes you are right once again. Sometimes I doubt myself when I shouldn't....

Author:  Star_Above [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:57 am ]
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You already know the answer Sniper

Author:  fufe [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:17 pm ]
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Why was my question avoided anyways ?

U guys don't do it the same way, really ?

Author:  Star_Above [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:34 pm ]
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I didn't understand your question fufe, elaborate.

Author:  Alchemist [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:04 am ]
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Fufe, the questions we ask that are avoided, we're meant to answer ourselves.

That's part of us walking the path when having it shown to us.

Author:  fufe [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:47 am ]
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Quote:
Fufe, a girl is always looking for something better, a guy with more value...if she "has you" then she'll stay with you until a better option comes along, if she "doesn't have you", then you are always the best option...get me? And this is just a form of giving space really, lot's of space!
Well I'm the same, I look for better girls, with more values.. If I was with a girl I liked and girl with more values showed up and digged me, of course I would go for the second girl too.. You guys wouldn't ?

Author:  peregrinus [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:33 pm ]
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fufe wrote:
Quote:
Fufe, a girl is always looking for something better, a guy with more value...if she "has you" then she'll stay with you until a better option comes along, if she "doesn't have you", then you are always the best option...get me? And this is just a form of giving space really, lot's of space!
Well I'm the same, I look for better girls, with more values.. If I was with a girl I liked and girl with more values showed up and digged me, of course I would go for the second girl too.. You guys wouldn't ?
Sometimes yes

Sometimes no

Sometimes I would ponder it for a while, before making a decision, while observing and weighing things up.

What appears to be the next best shiny thing is not always that, once you look more closely at it.

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:38 pm ]
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Bird in the hand... ;)

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:12 am ]
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ManniJa wrote:
Something that blew this shit wide open for me was learning, or unlearning rather....that trying to create rapport and commonalities with girls does not create attraction (I use to do this)!.....Guys she has rapport with go in the friend zone...
I have to agree with this one because in a lot of seduction schools they teach you to try and have rapport with a girl by mirroring her and stuff like that. In reality it might work good in business But when it comes to seduction: for the most part it's a huge mistake and waste of time.

why? because when you try to have rapport with a girl you are making her the prize and it's one way ticket to the friend zone. However, when a girl is attracted to You and sees you as a man for power- she will try to make rapport with You.

that's my experience...

Author:  The Kidd!! [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:12 am ]
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I don't mirror women...I look for the women that are subconsciously mirroring me. ;)

Author:  Sniper [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:20 am ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
I don't mirror women...I look for the women that are subconsciously mirroring me. ;)
that's what the seduction teachers should have taught but they got it backwards :|

Author:  Slim Titan [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:43 am ]
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The Kidd!! wrote:
I don't mirror women...I look for the women that are subconsciously mirroring me. ;)
Lol, man I do that shit too. It was only after I started reading this pimpin shit and changed my perspective. Sometimes their speed and reflectiveness (mirror quality) is down right creepy. The sucky part is that they may still subconsciously (mostly or at least generally) not know that they like you. They always do light up though when you speak to them.

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