Answer 1: The vin di carlo escalation ladder gave me a basis to work with on how to touch females. Granted the ladder is wholly inadequate, and I had to fill in a lot of the blanks myself. The seduction material I read from RSD or MM (I'm forgetting which one) helped me with opening females. I got a real confidence boost at just being able to start conversations with females. I looked at David Deangelo's cocky funny stuff and it helped me to express my personality more in person.
Answer 2: I started people watching. I set goals for myself and I failed most of my goals, but I wound up with consolation prizes. I had a goal to fuck a girl. I wound up with a makeout. I wanted to see what turning my back to person did and I found out what happened. I did lots of small stuff and learned a lot of little things.
I have a goal right now to keep track of what I say to improve my conciseness and see if I can add funny stuff. However, I forget what I say too fast to make the challenge happen.
Ok rkd1990,
There was a reason I asked you that question, I came from the seduction community myself... now I'll give you the answer. It might not be the one you Want to hear but keep your mind open for a moment since I know what you are going through (having been to the seduction community myself).
First of all the whole seduction stuff no matter which system you follow (I read and tried a lot of systems
) is always a Hit and Miss
Game. That's why it's called 'Game'.
The seduction Gurus and PUAs have marketing pages with promises like: 'Get any girl you want' and etc... But it's mostly a marketing pitch.
The thing is they are teaching what worked for 'Them' (since it was a part of their personality) and even then, they can't get any girl they want- the reason that their stuff works on
some girls is because they play the numbers game until (after many cold approached) they find the girl that likes whatever they have to offer.
But different girls like different things so no system is going to work on all girls.
for example, you found 'cocky funny' to work for you because it rang true with some personality traits you already had. But see what happened to 'urgirlzwitme' and myself when we tried to use it (since it was not a part of who we were):
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... 534#p10534
Now you said you got some results from RSD?
look what happened to a guy (named Sexter) that tried the RSD stuff while it was not a part of his personality (he also tried the cocky funny thing by David D.):
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... =15&t=1220
I'll Quote the one about RSD:
pickup method #2 Real Social Dynamics
Basically this method teaches "natural game". It teaches a lot of inner game jargon such as
1. Not caring what people think of you
2. having confidence they call "state"
3. Social conditioning is bullshit
4. Looks and money doesn't matter, as long as your a lovable fun guy, she will still sleep with you
5. self entertain yourself
I've studied "The Blueprint decoded" by Owen Cook, and he really had some great concepts. Basically what RSD is, is they teach you a lot of inner game stuff (stuff you think in your head) to fix your non-verbal communication with women. THat way, you come off congruent and confident, hence you will get women.
I've tried this technique many times and had minimal success. There were nights where I would be "in-state" and every girl loved me. However, there were nights where I was "out of state" and every girl hated me. Regardless of all the nights i've went out, I barely got any results. Even if you are really confident around a women, if the woman was never interested in the first place, she will most likely not sleep with you. Sure, she will laugh at your jokes and even give you her number, but she probably will flake out on you (b/c she was never really attracted to you).
RSD has a lot of pretty useful concepts, but it only worked with certain men. I know a couple of tall good looking white guys who utilized "real social dynamics" and got a lot of good results. However, when I use it, it hardly ever worked. Women who gave out their numbers to me were Flakey. I know a really good looking indian guy who relied on "natural game", he would only talk to a woman for 2 minutes, and he will rarely have any flaky numbers. However, when I talk to a woman using natural game, whenever I get her number, 9x out of 10 the number is flaky (regardless of how good my phone game is).
When a woman is really attracted to you, she won't flake out or ignore your phone calls. Every guy who's ever successful with RSD are usually guys who are good looking or guys who have a lot of status. Don't believe me?
If you look at all the "naturals" w/ hot white girlfirends living in Southern California, most of them are good looking white guys. Or average looking white guys with a really good personality or high status. I rarely see an average looking asian guy date a good looking white girl in socal. Whenever i see one, they probably met through their social circle, not through cold approach.
Ok now the Real Answer is (drums):
A. To develope your Front and Clout (which is something you are already doing
)
B. work on your hobbies and do what you love to do (without women)
C. Find the personality traits that make You unique and work to develope them.
D. Work on being happy without women - not needing women in your life to be happy.
You see I can give you Verbal skillz that worked for Me, But it won't necessarily work for You becuase you are not Me you don't have my personality and you have not lived the life that I lived. So trying to emulate or copy what someone else is doing Is not going to Work -
it might work sometimes but it's always a Hit and Miss Game.
now I'll point you out to some posts to better understand what I mean:
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=961
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... 9329#p9329
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... 9321#p9321
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=804
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopi ... 1591#p1591
Edit: this also:
http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=297